Hiya, I have some questions regarding the whole online sarging thing.

First off, I am not an experienced PUA in any shape or form.

Now that that's out of the way, I would love to learn more about online sarging, however all the stuff I read here is in regards to facebook, A site that really doesn't help me as I live in Holland and Facebook isn't as popular over here.

I do use a site named Netlog, it doesn't have a "Poke" feature though and the nasty thing is, it shows you exactly who and when has visited your profile.
Anyway, naturally I tend to hop around on this Netlog site and sometimes I just so happen to land on some cute single girl's profile.
What I don't know is..Where do I go from there? I always try to stay natural game when it comes to this but repeated attempts have shown me that if I try to strike up a convo or whatever with simply the vocabulary that was given to me during my life, it's just not gonna cut it. Chicks tend to reply once or twice and then simply cut off. I've gotten some MSN's in the past and a few meet-ups. But I always end up in the friend zone (Even though the women in question have now also, to me, become very good friends and nothing else)
My question is, really. Where do I start? I see all kinds of topics here all with all kinds of different openers or ways to get someone interested, the world of PUA just seems very overwhelming to me and I never have an idea on where to start?

In my opinion, online sarging is hard, a lot of women think every man is after one thing, a lot are but the odd one isn't.

Open the message by something different, point something out from her profile, thrown in a neg if you can find one, even as a joke. A neg often initiates some kind of convo and you get a reply. I used an opinion opener a few times it worked, and I got a shag out of it in the end.

Once you initiate some convo, use your natural game.

Well I'm not exactly just after that one thing, I'm more of the long-term kinda guy. I'm also a virgin so a quick shag is the last thing I want to lose my v-ard to.

What would be good things to point out? Something funny or odd on one of her pictures? Or perhaps a shared interest that both of us put on our list of interests? And is there a good way to get those points across, or could the first thing you say very well be something like "That's a funny pluck of hair sticking out" about one of her pictures?
I'm clueless, really...Negging seems hard to me, I'm always afraid that I'll either overdo it or mess up the neg altogether.

If the girl is a HB 7-8 point out something funny, if she is really hot, I'd say point our something odd, like with her eyes or nose, don't come across as really bad though.

If you mention something about a shared interest, make it interesting, not just that you like or do the same thing.

Trust me, using a neg isn't a bad thing, it causes a reaction, a lot of the time it gets over turned by you in the next message, remember practice will make perfect. Don't be afraid, everyone was in your shoes once.

Well I'm in luck when it comes to that, I've been told on multiple occasions that the girls that are drop dead gorgeous in my eyes are often well..Not that according to others. So I don't get alot of competition.

Thx for the quick reply's Chelios. Online sarging is one of the only things I have going for me cos I can never work up the guts to talk to a girl I see in real life, online makes that easier and talking to someone in person who I've spoken to online is easy..My inner game is quite shitty so I kinda need that obstacle of speaking to someone sized down..
Other then that, I don't know how to meet girls any other way, the usual stuff like going out or going to clubs are things that I hate doing with a passion and to simply talk to someone I see walking down the street..The idea alone makes me sweaty.

How do I mention a shared interest in an interesting way, btw? And do you have any tips on how to actually get the point across of wanting to meet someone in real life? And how soon you should bring that idea up?

No problem.

Everyone has a different taste, sometimes I go for a girl and my mates are like what!! You've had alot better, sometimes certain things appeal! lol .. So go for what your like .

Have you read The Game? I take it you have, if not a very good book, that you should definitely read, helped me and so many others so much. It'll ease your approach anxiety.

In terms or mentioning shared interest, bring it up how you would with a friend, natural game, that depends on your personality really, I'm straight up, there never is a perfect way. I'm just a straight up guy so go for it like that.

The way to get a meet on the mind could be by using that shared interest. If you know somewhere good that may do something you both like, for example me and some girl online, she loves ice cream, took her to an ice cream parlour, she loved it.

You will get knockbacks, even th pro's do (i am not a pro) , just keep your head up. Never ask for a meet to soon, build some rapport, get comfortable, but don't leave it weeks and weeks in convo.

Hi,

I think that's really good advice you'r giving (Chelios) to this young fellow. TO SCHOLZ: you shouldn't rush into something. But take this very seriously: read some books about gaming in general (like The Game by Neill Strauss) and watch the VH1 series The Pick-Up Artist. You will learn a lot and improve your gaming by yourself. When finished with this, start with different girls in a time, so you can improve your closing percentage.

Greetz from South Africa,

Afrikaner

I agree with you Afrikaner. The VH1 series of the PUA helped me so much, maybe more than the book, because you see everything in practice.

Hot girls get the "you are hot" thing all the time so you are going to have to find different ways of expressing your feelings.

Remember she may not have much time so don't beat around the bush.