Hey everyone, I'd like to share some of my thoughts and experiences with simple greetings to different females and what kind of different responses I have gotten.

On facebook, I added a couple of girls that I know around from school. Most of them I've never initiated a conversation. With all these new girls I added I decided to test out what kinds of greetings and openers work best. This is what I found:

I said "hey [name] what's up?" to an HB9 and did not recieve a response. I tried not to think too much about it. Maybe she was shy since that was what my good friend had told me about her. Never the less I went around posting this to other girls, usually getting no responses or just a simple "nothing much."

I tried a different greeting to another set of girls with a simple "hey". That's it. Just a one word greeting. I rarely got any responses from these types too. Only one girl responded back with one word (and she's not very attractive to begin with...).

Now this is where the interesting part comes in. When I tried greeting someone with a open-ended statement or question I got a response almost all the time. For example I greeted a girl and asked her about going downtown to an event in Chicago. The event was required for a class and she did respond and asked me if I was going. Ever since I've sparked up a great friendship with her.

Another girl I had tested the open-ended greeting had great results too. I asked her how her project was going from a class and we both started up a conversation. There was a point where I had hooked her and it was in my control to decide where this would go. I decided just to be friends. But in our conversations I upped the c&f and it worked like a charm. Not too close with her, but I do say hi time to time and have a fun conversation.

Here's my theory on this. I call it the Direct Greeting Theory. I've read and listened to a lot of material on pick-up, but not enough to ever come across anything that focused on this (so if something like this does exist then please let me know).

If you greet not only a woman, but anyone in any social situation, with an overly broad greeting such as "hey" or "what's up" then the conversation is likely to be dull or uninteresting. Now there have been some times when I've had great conversations by starting off like this, but not with people who I've just met. Whereas greetings with a natural followup question or statement seem to set up the structure of the conversation. Like setting up a solid base for it. Then with that followup question or statement she will have an easier time responding, without the awkward or uncomfortable feeling of trying to think of something to say. Whatever the question/statement is she will be able to relate to it and offer something too.



Here are some examples to show you. This is one that I just made up based on what I've experienced:

pua: hey
xxx: hi
pua: whatsup
xxx: mmm nm
xxx: u?

*right here is the crucial part to take direction. From what I have experienced at this point saying something interesting will determine the flow of the conversation. You could say something like this:

pua: nothing? that's great cause i'm looking for a female viewpoint on something
xxx: hahaha okayyy

*And take it from there. The important thing is to maintain a good flow. Don't try to force anything out. I think that if you try to have fun with it, then so will she.

Another thing I like to do is take the real-time environment as an advantage to talk to someone. So if it's late at night I will randomly drop an IM to a girl, usually telling them that "it's past their bedtime" (the DeAngelo bratty-lil-sister technique)


erison (2:05:00 AM): youre nocturnal
xxxxx (2:05:25 AM): i'm sexy
erison (2:05:50 AM): with those ***** piercings that's a no
xxxxx (2:05:58 AM): oohh
xxxxx (2:06:02 AM): i didn't get them done!
erison (2:06:16 AM): cmon xxxxx, it's passt the half of holiday break

later on the conversation...

xxxxx (2:07:07 AM): hmm
xxxxx (2:07:12 AM): then let's just have sex
erison (2:07:27 AM): HA. i don't even think you know how to kiss
xxxxx (2:07:38 AM): lol
xxxxx (2:07:54 AM): want to test me? ; )
erison (2:08:01 AM): no, cause you smoke
xxxxx (2:08:09 AM): hahah
xxxxx (2:08:10 AM): k
xxxxx (2:08:14 AM): lameo
erison (2:08:28 AM): at least i'll live 20 years longer

deeper into the convo....

xxxxx (2:20:02 AM): your internet sarcasm confuses me
erison (2:21:10 AM): i know. it's so awesome
xxxxx (2:21:57 AM): haha
xxxxx (2:21:59 AM): you jackass
erison (2:23:04 AM): at least i have a nice ass


more...

xxxxx (2:27:00 AM): what makes you think i'm in to you?
xxxxx (2:27:35 AM): lol
erison (2:28:03 AM): cause you're talking to me at 2:30 in the morning haha




Notice how well the initial start of the conversation served? I didn't even say "hi" or "hey". I just went straight in by taking advantage of what time it was. It was better and it caught her attention. No long pauses in the convo either. It was continous and flowing from one topic to the next. I once read in a newsletter about a guy who worked for an Oil company as a marketing consultant. His job required him to talk and socialize a lot so in his training he learned that to keep a conversation going you must take "keywords" that the other person is saying. Then you build responses by building off those keywords. It's something that I've started to do and I'm starting to see great results.

In short, greetings that are too broad = bad. Greetings that have a direct statement or question = good. Just remember to keep it natural, flowing, and fun!


I'd love to hear your thoughts, comments, and criticisms on what I've written about. I'm still learning too but I wanted to share what I've picked up so far.

Greetings man

I rather try to act as natural and that gives me the best results. Woman, picked up via net doesn't see my body language, self confidence, sense of humour. So when a man says just hello, she doesn't have any information about you, not even such superficial like voice ton, smile, look - which all are met by her on the street and may suffice. In net, in her eyes, you may be AFC.

Moreover, especially on partner searching portals, women tend to receive hundreads of such standard messages, like "hi", because there are ots of men who send automatically such messages to for example 50 girl during one evening. So they rarely respond to it.

The key is to be different from the grey mass of rivals who hiton her the whole time. You can't do it by showing confidce, body language so in order to interest her, you must write something which is unique.

Just give a woman the reason so she wants to choose you from hundreads of messages she receives. Try to spot something that could be important for her, which isn't spotted by other males. When you catch good contact online, it's more probable the meeting in real will be success.

Some good stuff there. In my experience going into sex talk online is a dead end street. has anyone actually got it on with the person in real life? It always comes across as pricktease.

I looked at Styles guide to online and personals game. Basically be a bit of a bastard is the key. I have tried this on several online sites and I am shocked that it can work in getting women to respond. I wish I could cut and paste a set of 3 emails I've done with 1 woman.Basically we're just being sarcastic to each other! But it's communication. ultimately the test is how successful it is to moving it offline.

I'll repeat what I said in another post. People can behave far more outrageous and unhinibited online rather than off.Steer it offline asap. Work on the real person

I call this "conversation theory".

however adding people you already know information about makes everything a lot easier because you can ground any opening with some fact that you're both familiar with. Generally any opening that illustrates a connection is going to work better.

A connection is typically non threatening and all the abilities you have at your disposal to create attraction etc can be used within an existing conversation regardless of the topic.

The same goes in real life, in any conversation where you offer information related to the subject of the conversation. People feel a connection with you. People make friends by sharing information about themselves that the other person can relate to. The only difference if you want more than friends is adding "spice" to the conversation.

The real trouble comes when there's nothing much to work with, and/or you have no actual connection to anything they say.

on sexual talk. the thing that works for me best, and by best I mean the difference between just talk and making em crazy for you is co-author a fantasy. The more they can imagine it in their head the better it works. The more descriptive you can be the easier it is to imagine it. It works better in messages cos you've got more space to elaborate on descriptive.