In person its easy, you have things around you.

I know I make a lot of threads, but I really want to get good at online. I just can't pull it off though.

So how do you come up with yours? What factors do you consider from the profile, if any?

I have been sitting here with a message open ready to write on OKC and I swear for the life of my I can't think of what to say to get a reply.

Just like in real life you have things "around" you to use as an opener. As they are right in front of you. The three major sources I use to make up my openers for online game are:

Pictures
"About Me" Section
Comments (if applicable)

If I can not get a opener from any of those three things I resort to pre-made lines I have come up with. These lines primary come from lines that have been posted here or I find on the internet and I spin them to make them more unique or use them as a creative source to make a brand new line.

I just was not sure as to what to go off of.

How does this sound (she has a dog in one of her pictures)

"So is that a boxer in your pictures? Its a rather cute picture but hard to tell with you smashing him!"

Sound ok, or what?

With the line you came up with, I would say I am on the fence. As its not bad, but girls can interpret it as you being mean even tho you are not trying to be. One of the problems with online game is that it is harder to covey cockiness and funny than it is in real life. I may say something like:


"O what a cute doggy, is that for me? I always wanted a boxer!"

That is def. hard.
Well I never sent it because it didn't feel right. As you said it could be interpreted as mean.

You know your profile is often far more important then your message. on POF I have seen women I message, check out my profile and delete my message without even reading it.

Also your profile tends to attract different kinds of women. I'm on my third profile on POF till I found one that attracts the type of women I like.

I see, I see.

Why is online harder than in person!!!! haha

because people have no common sense over how to interpret the type of information contained in profiles delivered upfront and outside the context of personality.

I disagree. I think there are three main reasons why you may get no response from girls when you send them a message. They are:

1. Your message to them sucked and did not grab their attention so they never bother to check out your profile let alone reply back.
2. She does visit your profile only to check out your stats and photos, and if she does not find that appealing then no reply.
3. She will visit your profile and actually read it as well as look at the photos and your stats. And if that doesn't interest her no reply from her.

Something I learned from using POF is that the average height girls (ie 5'4 to 5'7") tend to get a lot of messages from guys, if they are at least physical appealing/attractive. And so they [these girls] really have their pick of the lot.

Funny tho that you said you where on your 3rd profile on POF. I am about to start on my 4th one, as my current one is getting me girls that are way to short for me.

Mainly because what you say can be interpreted in so many ways that what you where trying to say may not get across. Plus people are more picky with online sites than in real life. As you have the time to sit back and take a look at the person's profile.

this article says something interesting
http://www.livescience.com/health/07021 ... _date.html

"“Inevitably, I’m going to find something we don’t agree on. And as soon as I find that one thing, then things start to cascade so everything else I learn about you suddenly now feels like more evidence that we are dissimilar and we don’t get along,”"

thanks for posting that! That's very enlightening and makes sense in my experience.

The funny thing is if I see that a girl likes country music - that shuts me down. I don't know why, but I don't like girls that like country music. I'm sure there's thousands of examples just like that... The funny thing is if I never knew that tidbit, there would still be a connection - e.g. it's irrelevant! It's arbitrary!

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"A man is but the product of his thoughts, what he thinks, he becomes." - Mohandas Gandhi

I've been trying to get Online sarging down to a science. Here's what i got so far.

1)Briefly skim through there profile, pick out interesting topics to include in Opener. Get a sense of their personality(serious, like to joke...whatever)

2) NEVER EVER- mention how hot she is, Leave your contact info, Say you want to get to know her, use stupid one liners or Write a lot.

-The theory behind it is. she hears how hot she is all the time. To the ladies you're just another boring guy. You want to make sure to STAND OUT!

3)Use compliments if applicable but NEVER about her looks. (ex. You look like you know how to have fun...What's you're drink of choice?) used this in picture with girl smiling holding a drink.

4)Questions are a must. This way you can start a convo based on her answers. Make them interesting though, don't ask about the weather. (ex. You seem adventurous, What's the craziest thing you've ever done?)

5) Avoid "Hey" as a subject line. you'll get deleted. something creative works, like....Mint Chip Ice Cream.. key is to STAND OUT

6) Neg if applicable. usually used for stuck up HB's

Successful Examples: ( worked like a charm for me)

(quite, good girl type)
I enjoyed your profile and like what I read and saw.I believe you have the right mindset to handle my personality. You look like alot of fun also. If you are looking for someone different and want a man to keep a smile on your face. You know where to find me.


(stuck up Brat. party girl)
You seem like you like to party. Are you doing anything else with you're life? I once met a girl wearing shirt like that, maybe we already know each other. If you're curious in finding out and having a real good time, msg me. Maybe we can figure how to get rid of that stain.

(Nerdy Nice)
Hi NAME, I'm NAME. You seem like a pretty interesting and down to earth girl. I go to school and work full-time. Your profile stood out from the others *Wink* I'm just looking for some new friends. I'm into music and anything fun. if you're interested in a friendship. shoot me back

NAME

(Most successful)

What made you join this site?

You seem interesting, down to earth. These days anyone can be made to look good in pictures, My question is do you have an equally impresive personality.

Basically I'm just looking to meet some fun new people. check out my profile and let me know what you think.

Apart from your looks what else makes you interesting? <<<ULTIMATE QUESTION>>>>


Hope this helps man.

~Snugy

Not bad Snugy I might try some variations of those. The only thing i didn't like was in the last one To me it comes across as seeking validation.

Not bad advice at all snugy. I think you also helped me indirectly with a opener I been working on to use on tall girls even.

Hmm.. Good point guys.. Thanks for picking that out...
now that you mention it..it is seeking validation....However I did get pretty good results. How about..

Check out my profile to see if you can keep up......See if you're just as interesting....<< All i got so far....

anyone else?