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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:10 pm 
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Hi,

Before I get into my questions I'd like you to get some background info before I start. I'm a single 24 years old a bit over averege looking guy who has loads of issues when it comes to this particular area of life called dating with women I'm certain a lot of you out there can recognize yourselves in what I have to say:

It's been a while since I started interacting with this girl in my class. As I'm a fairly open guy who don't mind being funny, I make her giggle and ocassionaly tease her. I believe that she's given me a couple of indications that she's interested. I mean I could say practically anything and she'll either smile or giggle, she even seem to like my sarcastic undertone in our small conversations. But I just cannot make a move. I'm not sure if it's too early to if I'm actually making up these beliefs. I'm intimidated by this whole situation, this thing is directly connected to my fear of rejection which I, for the first time, experienced earlier this year by telling a girl about my emotions for her. My world flipped upside down over a night, I fell into a depression and the fear of approaching a girl in the future seemed distant. Today should've been a great day served with great opportunities in order to advance but you know what, I blew it, what's special about today is that we shared our last lesson together. She left without even saying goodbye, I don't want to seem needy by replying even in a sarcastic way about why she didn't say goodbye, would you? I really like to know what's on her mind, what she thinks about me and if she's waiting. Along with other issues in my life this thing which is such an important area of my life grows like a cancer and I really hate my self for not finding the right way of doing things before it's too late. Damn, I really don't want this opportunity to vanish. Now, what would you do if you were in my shoes?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:19 pm 
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Well, first of all forget about this girl. She isn't the solution to your problems. The first thing you need to do is to look into the mirror and admit to yourself that you have a problem and that you really want to solve it. Suppose this girl in some way would have escalated with you and you would have get together, you would have a girlfriend but your problem isn't solved. This will give you major problems even when you are in a relationship. For example, she will dominate you completely because you know that if she dumps you, you will never or very very difficult find another girl again. This reflects in the way you behave in your relationship. You will behave too needy, too wussy, ... at the end in 99 % of the cases the girl will dump you and there you are again single with your unsolved personality issues.

So my advice is to forget this single girl and do something to your problem. You read about pickup ... GOOD. Now it is time for you to put the theory into PRACTICE. Go out and approach women. Get over your approach anxiety. I am for 100 % sure you have a lot of approach anxiety because this is reflected in your post. Approach, approach and approach. If you can get over your approach anxiety, it will make you a better and more confident person. Learn everything step by step. Don't try to go from an AFC to a PUA in 1 day. First you are going to be stucked getting over your approach anxiety. It might take you a long time to get over this but eventually you will get over this (= being capable of opening despite being a bit nervous). Once you are over AA, try to figure out how to spark attraction. This will take you time. But once you learned this you can focus to use kino in all your interactions. And so on and on and on. If you have a friend you trust, it would be advisable to tell him about it and charge together and both solve your issues.

By doing everything step by step you will improve and each time you set your goals and improve yourself, you will become a better and more confident person. Don't think there exists a pill that you can take and will make you go from zero to hero in an instant. If you want to become that confident guy capable of picking up women you have to do what you have to do. It is a long and hard way but if you are really motivated, you can do it.

Good luck.


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Hey Noble-man the F up!!!! Quit the bullshit whining. Sorry from being so hard but-cut the shit out and be alpha. So what if she didnt say bye.You've already doomed yourself by falling for this chicc already. It'd be real messed up if the feelings arent mutual(I doubt it).

You need to be getting at other chiccs and stop whining over this 1. I think you have a case of ONE-ITIS coming on. If she'd shown you Indicators of interest and you haven't acted on them yet,she's probably lost attraction for you by not acting on her signals. I doubt that you've even went Kino with her(touched her). Act fast and dominant please. But for you to try to be proactive with her from now on would seem really weird to her since you've never been so forward yet.

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IMO DonPua has just given you the best piece of advice you will get in the next year. Just take your time with it and don't rush it, you will be supprised how much things start falling into place once you work your own issues out.

Hope you have a brilliant 2010!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Hi,

Before I get into my questions I'd like you to get some background info before I start. I'm a single 24 years old a bit over averege looking guy who has loads of issues when it comes to this particular area of life called dating with women I'm certain a lot of you out there can recognize yourselves in what I have to say:

It's been a while since I started interacting with this girl in my class. As I'm a fairly open guy who don't mind being funny, I make her giggle and ocassionaly tease her. I believe that she's given me a couple of indications that she's interested. I mean I could say practically anything and she'll either smile or giggle, she even seem to like my sarcastic undertone in our small conversations. But I just cannot make a move. I'm not sure if it's too early to if I'm actually making up these beliefs. I'm intimidated by this whole situation, this thing is directly connected to my fear of rejection which I, for the first time, experienced earlier this year by telling a girl about my emotions for her. My world flipped upside down over a night, I fell into a depression and the fear of approaching a girl in the future seemed distant. Today should've been a great day served with great opportunities in order to advance but you know what, I blew it, what's special about today is that we shared our last lesson together. She left without even saying goodbye, I don't want to seem needy by replying even in a sarcastic way about why she didn't say goodbye, would you? I really like to know what's on her mind, what she thinks about me and if she's waiting. Along with other issues in my life this thing which is such an important area of my life grows like a cancer and I really hate my self for not finding the right way of doing things before it's too late. Damn, I really don't want this opportunity to vanish. Now, what would you do if you were in my shoes?
I think you're learning one of life's harsh lessons - girls use and abuse men. They are not the cute innocent sweet pieces of flesh you think they are. They will lie cheat and be plain fucking rude. The best you can expect is for girls to do nothing or make polite excuses. You need to start emotionally detaching from girls. Once you realise that she is nothing special - show me a girl who is - then you can move on. To be frank once you've fucked a dozen girls you'll be surprised how interchangeable they really are!

Regarding making a move. When you are in this position again make the move there are good reasons to. If she's not interested romantically/sexually then you find that out quick. And it's nearly always better to regret something you have done rather than something you didn't. I've been in the position where I didn't make a move on a woman I saw 8 times and it slipped into a weird sort of friends thing and then imploded. It was torture as I kept going through the same thought processes - If I make a move she may reject me and destroy what we have - If I leave it we're still seeing each other and there's a chance - I'll wait for the right time. A very vicious circle.

As for telling a girl your feelings - DO NOT DO IT! -even if you get the best sex in the world. well maybe then.

NobelXIII - from what you've written I would try to address the other issues in your life before getting involved in PU. If you don't have strong foundations you can easily be fucked around mentally.

Remember this is 1 girl in your life they'll be others. Once you accept that she's gone you'll be open for more. You have to learn to let go - unfortunately sometimes things do not end the way we want them to


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:01 pm 
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As for telling a girl your feelings - DO NOT DO IT! -even if you get the best sex in the world.
Best advice ever. Never do it. In each serious relationship in which I did tell my feelings, a few weeks later the relationship ended. So now I never say it again unless I want the relationship to end :lol: .


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