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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:13 pm 
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I have a little problem I would like to solve and would like you guys to give me your inputs...!!!

I have been successful with girls, I'm in the level where girls ask for my phone number or give me their number instead of me asking for their number (is a little technique I have developed over the time, which I'll post it here soon).

Girls usually think I have a interesting life, that I'm "the cool guy", and that I'm guy they want to be around, but in reality I'm nothing of the above, I just project that image using my body language and by getting a lot of attention in clubs and parties.

Well my problem is that when I'm around other guys that are socially successful (you know the type of man that knows everybody and everybody wants to know them because they throw a lot of parties in their room and give alcohol (in college)), I get intimidated, I change, I am not the same guy that project confidence, I stop being the Alpha Male, I get nervous, and I don't fight back to get the attention, I just let them play her.

I don't know why this happen, it only happen when I around others Alpha males that maybe have been more successful than me.

So my question is: how can I overcome this issue? any tips?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:33 pm 
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ever afc or pua has been shy a method i used to overcome shyness was to go on myspace,aim and stuff like that and hit on girls cause u wont be afraid if they reject u and if u dont get rejected online the first or so times it builds confidence like it did to me and ur less shy and more confident.good luck




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If its a set w/ one alpha male then game him and try to befriend him. All the while giving little or no attention to your target. Of coarse you gotta throw some negs towards the target. But just be buddy buddy w/ him. If hes a successful guy or hes into something ask him about it. I've noticed guys like that like to talk about themselves anyway so let him. All the while you direct what he is going to talk about. By asking questions, and throwing in your 2cents here and there. Then run some routines that involves the entire set, but still negging/ ignoring the target. Find out what the relation between the dude and the girl(s) are. Then simply isolate the target. "I've been ignoring your friend all night can I speak w/ her over here? Then its all good from there. If you've appeared like you're the cool interesting, i'd hang w/ that guy person then there should be no resistence.

As far as groups w/ more than 1 male....Im still kinda working on that.

Anyway I just proved that guys like talk too much as you can see by the writing.

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First, I'm convinced the true alpha male lives alone. He's not co-dependent on anyone else. If you have a room mate, get a place to yourself. Most of your friends are gonna try to put you down, especially if you're under 25. They'll belittle you for hitting on women that aren't hot enough, they'll do ALL kinds of shit to tear you down and keep you in your place. They'll cling to one or two stupid things you've said or done and bring them up over and over and over, especially if they sense it;s bothering you. Get them out of the picture until you are certain you're alpha. When you get there, you'll know it. It will take a few months of hard work, at least. I speak from experience...In college, I tried to be alpha a few times in the fraternity house and EVERY time the guys tore me down and made sure I didn't improve myself. Eventually, I made the decision that my role was to be silent in social settings, otherwise my mouth would embarrass me. I lived my life that way for the next 15 years. It was habit for me. They made me a lifetime beta male. Bullshit. Get away from your friends if they're tearing you down. That's why most men are beta males, because we tear each other down in our late teens and twenties. We condition ourselves to think in terms of "how do I avoid embarrassment" instead of "what can I do to increase my social circle."

Second, FORCE yourself to open at least 3 sets of strangers into normal conversation EVERY day for 3 or 4 weeks. It can be anyone, it doesn't have to be women. In fact, for this 3 or 4 week period, I recommend avoiding women that you'd be sexually interested in just so you get used to opening with success. Open the guy making your sandwich at the deli, open the old man on the park bench...open anyone and try to get them into normal conversation. After 3 or 4 weeks, you'll be a new person.

Third, listen to your own voice. If it sounds nasally or not very manly, work on improving your voice tone. This takes a while for it to come naturally. The alpha male can speak loudly from the base of his chest.

Fourth, force yourself to go out sarging alone. Open the males in the bars first. They are generally a LOT easier to open than women only sets. Open male only sets if you have to. Don't just stand there and talk to no one. Force yourself to open sets. When you do this, you'll notice the entire set is focused on you as soon as you open. At this point, you're the alpha male of the group. Try to maintain it. Get used to it. You ARE the alpha male.

Fifth, I totally recommend working out with weights, eating healthy and tanning. You'll find people in general are easier to open into normal conversation if you're better looking. You'll also gain a lot of self confidence from the way you look. But...please realize, this won't really help you get laid. I'm convinced looks are less than 5% of the entire equation of seduction.

My advice for what it's worth. I've just made the transformation from 110% beta male at the time of my divorce to total alpha male. It took about 3 months of hard work. But it's worth effort. I now have alpha status over ALL of my old friends. It's a pretty cool feeling to sense they're looking up to me for leadership now.

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smileforme That reply had absolutely no relevance to the guys question you fuckwit. Read the dam post before spouting shit like that, and your advce was bullshit. Never online game unless you have nothing else to do late at night

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That happens to most people man, I freeze around the jocks at school, i'd rather not oppose them and not make waves. Alpha-males i dont know dont concern me, because as far as i'm concerned they are projecting it aswell and we have a lot in common.

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i really appreciate you guys actually try to help other people...see...i have have the same shyness problem...So afraid of talking to strangers...so it's tough to open sets....i guess just practice with anyone can help me...thank you so much everyone.


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Quality advice, Alphagame.


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I'd like to suggest that you ask about the alpha male's area of excellence until people get bored of it, or it seems like he's just bragging.

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If you are shy in front of other Alpha males, you're not an Alpha male. End of story.

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thanks guy...!!! good advises


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maybe one good thing you should do is try to deconstruct them in your mind

theres some friends I meet sometimes, theres like 1 or 2 guys who thinks theyre alphas(at least compared to the others they totally are) but I dont see them superior in anyway, I impose respect to them by simply acting like "hey, you dont have that intimacy" and act cool with them, if they try to play with me I just play harder

anyway its a different situation, because theres not women with us this times

theres always a guy who is more social than u, but wathever, theyre not superior, some of them are like they could stay there and talk about theirselves for hours and thats probably not THAT interesting to anyone
I have a more misterious style and when I get on with the girls I cant hold my line, thats what matters...


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[quote="Alphagame"]First, I'm convinced the true alpha male lives alone. He's not co-dependent on anyone else. If you have a room mate, get a place to yourself. Most of your friends are gonna try to put you down, especially if you're under 25. They'll belittle you for hitting on women that aren't hot enough, they'll do ALL kinds of shit to tear you down and keep you in your place. They'll cling to one or two stupid things you've said or done and bring them up over and over and over, especially if they sense it;s bothering you. Get them out of the picture until you are certain you're alpha. When you get there, you'll know it. It will take a few months of hard work, at least. I speak from experience...In college, I tried to be alpha a few times in the fraternity house and EVERY time the guys tore me down and made sure I didn't improve myself. Eventually, I made the decision that my role was to be silent in social settings, otherwise my mouth would embarrass me. I lived my life that way for the next 15 years. It was habit for me. They made me a lifetime beta male. Bullshit. Get away from your friends if they're tearing you down. That's why most men are beta males, because we tear each other down in our late teens and twenties. We condition ourselves to think in terms of "how do I avoid embarrassment" instead of "what can I do to increase my social circle."


Third, listen to your own voice. If it sounds nasally or not very manly, work on improving your voice tone. This takes a while for it to come naturally. The alpha male can speak loudly from the base of his chest.


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I see where your coming from. Im in college and live with 3 roomates and let me tell you guys def like to tear each other apart. Im more of the nice patient guy but when my roomates started to tear me down I said if you guys ever talk to me like that id beat the sh*t out of you. Guess what, those pus*ies cant even look me in the eyes now. What I learned is that if your getting pulled down you have to stand up and be the man. If you dont you will lose confidence in yourself. My advice is lift weights and dont be at home 24/7.

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yeah so the best way to overcome your shyness is just suck it up and start running game on the alpha male while ignoring the HB's that way the HB's will notice that you are the alpha male and they will just be begging for your attention.


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Is there a thread dealing with AMOG/alpha male handling somewhere here?


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Alphagame is 100% right, man you make me happy :!: .
Another important part is the self-confidence. Alphagame said how to boost you self-confidence.
I have looks, that some AMOG just project that they are AMOG. If they meet some1 with more confidence - boom, AMOG down :twisted: !

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