I have had this issue my whole life and it has messed up basically every opportunity for girls I have ever had. I am a good looking guy, over 6 foot and when I go out girls stare at me/check me out. Sometimes they come up to me and say we think your hot (i still mess that up sometimes haha :/ I never have an issue opening and starting quick conversation. I am actually very charming as well when my confidence is up (at TIMES, incredibly inconsistent). I have had sex with multiple 9s and my number is around 20 girls, didnt lose my virginity til I was 20 and Im 23 now. However, I have never had a GF and its the thing I want more than anything. All of the girls I have hooked up with were more like a one or two night thing and I feel like I got by on planned game and my looks and hooked up with these girls rather quickly. None of them stick around because I cannot maintain a sober conversation about anything because I overanalyze everything. Im terrible at meeting women and talking to them sober and they recognize the inconsistency and run away fast. Its like I hate women and their personalities and the ridiculous things I have to do to keep them in my life. Game only goes so far. I CANNOT game a relationship, or can i? no idea but what ive done so far does not work.

My real question is, how do I have conversations about things I really really do not care at all about. I overanalyze everything and I feel like the only conversation I can have with anyone is with an intelligent man or woman or with anyone about music. I can fake caring and stay stupid little lines with girls and make them laugh but after some time, they recognize how little I care about any conversation that does not have an important meaning behind it. So I end up coming off at that quiet guy who on occasion has something to say and says it strongly with confidence and attracts everyone, but doesnt say a word most of the time and keeps to himself and pushes people away til their surprise of me saying something.

Anyone have or had this issue before? I feel like the only girls i really get along with are the ones that tend to be friends with tons of guys and not girls because they hate girls too. These girls are rare and I feel like I will marry one of them but they are so often taken, and are actually often untrustworthy. how do i game dumbass girls who never say anything interesting?

I have been with about 20 girls but am on a 6 month cold streak. something is seriously wrong and I cannot figure it out. how do i lighten up and learn to have fun with these types of girls? I can keep them around from sex for a few times too but once again, none of them stay (well the ones i want to stay dont stay).

I didn't read what you wrote there, I'm sorry about that.

I'm just guessing your fix is simple:
You shouldn't care what others think about you, what they might say or if the conversation goes awkward.

CONCENTRATE on your inner state at all times, manipulate it by doing things you like (being funny etc.)

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The above reply guessed wrong. Actually, the topic of your thread is misleading. Your issue isn't drunk versus sober. It's about getting passed pussy to relationships.

For the amount that you seem to be completely bored with the girls you talk to... I have to wonder why you'd even be interested in dating them in the long run.

What if the problem isn't you? What if the problem is them? There's nothing wrong with putting a girl into the proper category. Some girls really aren't worth keeping around for very long. Some girls don't have much to offer than how they look (and a lot of girls offer even less than that -- guys too, to be fair).

You can talk to girls about music. That's cool. Next time you meet a girl who lets you have an intelligent conversation with her, let her know you're impressed with her. "It's hard to find someone who likes good shit. High five." Any other girl, it's cool if you don't engage with her on that level.

And so I don't sound like one of those "it's all in your head, just believe in yourself!" types... you can always improve your ability to talk to all kinds of people if you live a more interesting life. Partying is cool. But there's way more to life. Even pick one thing: travel, business, fashion, art, helping people. All things that give you interesting stories and that a *quality* girl would find interesting.

I know exactly how you feel bro.. I'm almost the same way except I'm a virgin. And what the guy above me said is true, your title is misleading, but to talk about your title a bit I have mad drunk game, but no game AT ALL sober. When I'm drunk I turn into this douchebag who thinks I'm the shit and can't go wrong, but when I'm sober I just overanalyze everything and can't game girls :/ Every girl I've ever made out with happened when I was drunk. Any help for us guys?

First of all , almost no conversations have an important meaning behind it.
Life is superficial.

Second, you have to improve your conversational skills.
for eg Think about different than the usual questions that you can ask so that you can maybe bring out another side out of the girl - If you talk to her pnly about music you cant complain that she is empty on the inside...

Also, you are probably looking in the wrong places for girls.
Obviously your not going to meet a more intelligent serious girl in a club.
Well you might, but you might not notice because your in a party environment where people just want to have a good time and usually not philosophise or whatever lol.

If your in university you will meet plenty girls that also have content.
Or go to the library or whatever .

and yeah the problem seems to be with you and not the girls.
you need to change- innergame.

first of all, go meet more girls, cause the ones you have met so far suck, you want a hottie that you have chemistry with? tough shit man, you have to find her, can't just lay and pray she will come to you

if you are not working at this with all the free time you have, there is less of a chance you will find someone that suits you, it is extremely hard to find a girl you vibe with like a best friend, who also physically turns you on, they are rare, usually it's just physically passable and boring/annoying/stalker-like, you put up with the shit you aren't interested in to get the tang in the juice box, but why do this when you can find a girl who does interest you? maybe that takes more work, what ever, you have to work in this life to reach your goals, hopefully you do have your own interests that go beyond nothing, if you have no interests and don't do anything besides work and sit around at home, you will really only click with boring girls who do the same, and that shit gets really old, really fast, how many times can you watch a movie with a girl and have sex over and over again before you lose interest in talking with her or hanging out, sex is great, but if you have had sex with the same person regularily for like a year and you have nothing left to talk about, shit gets boring

also, work on yourself and your problems, but know that you should improve yourself for you, not for someone else, if you get what you want but realize it doesn't make you happy, what then? learn to put up with a boring girl who offers no value to you just to get laid for a while, but then when that gets boring, what then? you know what you want to fix, fix it, work on it, you know what you have to do to get the job done, just do it, but don't think you have to put up with a shitty girl, just get off your ass and meet a better one, if all you want is to put up with conversational topics that don't interest you, just listen to them talk, repeat back what they say in the form of a question, then say, ''that's cool'' or, ''interesting'' or what ever (and you can just skip the repeating it back, and just make you comment), you can also talk about why or how they did that, and how that must make them feel, then leave your little judgement call on the whole thing, ''haha awesome''

boring hb: blah blah blah blah blah
you: ohh so blah blah blah? haha that's pretty cool

when you seriously don't want to talk about something, change the subject

GOOD LUCK

If you have trouble with game then I advice to go out and talk to a girl during a day. You need pretty much no game during the day. Girls will be happy that you have the balls to do it out site of the "norms".

Hell girls will buy you shit way more often also.