Wow, looking back on this thread i looked like a tool a bit. well since that post ive only had one other kiss close and have secured an hb8.5 for a prom date, in which she asked me to go with her. That saved a lot of anxiety for me lol.

Anyway I have improved my inner game so much more since that last post. I love peacocking and I'm never self conscious about it now. I love to read bodylanguage and I've gotten great at reading IOIs, they seem very obvious to me.

Aside from that, I'm forcing myself to go out to parties more to get over my social anxiety and get some ass (that's how I got my 2nd kiss close... hopefully ill start blowing up soon).

Maybe ill post a FR next week to update you guys.

welcome and congrats, youre going to change alot in a short amount of time

ok so mybe this isnt the best place for a first post but here goes.I am 18 and never kissed or had a sex with a women. i have very a small group of friends who i think are in the same boat as me but lie about it alot. i have a ton of social anxiety around women or the guys. my brothers found out im a virgin and and have never let me forget it.they make me feel so bad sometimes know all i want to do is learn to get women in my life. how should a guy like me with no eperience with women or much of a social circle start to make this change into a PUA. i dont consider my self goodlooking and tend to keep to myself in social situations.I guess i dont talk much because i cant think of anything interesting to say.i need to change dramatically because if things continue like this i will loose my friends never get a job(nobody likes you when you dont talk much)and my family has already noticed how different i am and already single me out

I'm in the same boat, I'm 17 never had a girlfriend. Been rejected plenty, needless to say a virgin.

But hey, things are easiest to change when you start from the bottom right?

Just saw your post, glad to see you're making progress!

You guys are in absolute best position to start learning this stuff, your minds are fresh. At 17 years old I was a virgin and had never kissed a girl, and things have changed over the years dramatically. I got lucky and got a girlfriend which lasted for awhile until she broke my heart. After that my confidence was at a all time low, and at this point I decided I needed change NOW.

My best advice is to write down all your strengths and weaknesses and evaluate how to find a solution to each one. If you are unsure of the answer, the pua forums and google are your friend. Focus on improving everything on the list and eventually you'll be the PUA you want to be.

Your biggest problem is going to be your inner game, its easy to remember canned material, and in fact its useless to remember if you dont have a solid frame. I suggest thats where you start, there are many techniques to go about this, so I say do your homework and find what best works for you. They all come down to realizing the present and establishing your confidence... essentially killing that ego that is telling you your not good enough. Make sure your reading the right material and not some online marketing junk. As the suggested newby book you can start with the Game. For me I moved onto Style's Annihilation Method series which can be found if you look in the right areas. Another audio clip I suggest is the Collection of Confidence by Hypnotica, and you might want to check out the Sphinx for a really cool experiance.

Now I'm currently reading a book suggested by another forum member and is absolutly changing my outlook at life. It's called the power of now, but it doesn't focus on picking up women, so I'd start with the previous recommendations first. There is hope for you guys, at 20 years old I've imporved greatly, I'm no Gambler Adam Lyons, Sinn, Carlos Xuma (yet) but I've kissed more women then I know now and have racked up a series of women in my bedroom (and elsewhere). I even pulled off a 3some with a 10 and a 7... its all too easy once you understand the concepts.

im 17 going on 18 and had 2 hopeless relationships and virtually no social circle to speak of.

then i met this guy who quickly became my friend. he was a senior from my old school and we just clicked. he started telling me about pua and stuff - and the good thing was that he kept the info exclusive. but ofc, he only gave me the starting point - my game only progressed when i joined this forum, and started reading material and practising game.

tbh, i started learning pua to get my dream girl. it was my goal when i first started and still the same now.

however learning all this has changed my life. i now actually have a social circle to speak off, i attract friends easily, im influential, all things i only hoped i could be in secondary school.

be glad that you guys found pua early - enjoy, and dont go around breaking hearts!

cheers, toolfan92.