This is great stuff. No wonder ive been put into the friendzone so damn much. I hardly ever made contact! It seams so obvious the things i didnt do when i should have been.

nice one....appreciate it... its time for my hands to get back to work... haha..

keep us updated with good detailed info. like this... thnx...

LOL.. Jabroni.

Yeah, every PUA has their own methods. I agree with EasyLover; you should do kino as soon as possible. It just gets weird if you hold off too long.

Agreed w/ blak000 here...

and plus it kinda gets weird after a while... like... if u dont start kino from first...and then bring it later in the game it kinda makes the girl uncomfortable and plus gets her thinkin what the hell is this guy doin... not DLV u but...still hurts a bit from what i have noticed...

Its just better to establish a rep as a touchy person as Mystery says... by not only kino'ing your target but also her frnds... showing that u r a touchy person... That kinda makes the environment right... plus the target would'nt hold back if she is thinkin of Kinoing u back... lol... that just sets ur game a bit higher... and gets u that closer to ur goal...

all this advice really help i am getting my head round it and also memento is teaching me

awesome post thanks this will really help me.

i can actually attest to this working with someone who is not interested in you... now not to the extent of sex, but it opens a woman up(no pun intended)

i live with a female room mate, and if she seems cold and distant on a certain day i will brush up against her in the kitchen or playfully move her out of the way of a drawer and she will become more talkative and open towards me for the rest of the night... kino works ppl, even on a room mate who you don't get along with all the time(well a female one )

I tried to start kino on a girl butttttttt. She has an ocd thing with ppl touching her she jumps back and clutches her self for protection. Whats the best way to make her like your kino and not have the reaction shes has when ever any one i mean any one touches her. I tried doing kino but she said she can't stop feeling the spot shes touched she does it to every one tho so I know shes not lying. I don't want to push it on her or tease her cus I think that will make her more ocd about it. Should I do the hand kino with her or is it to late cus I've known her for a while I'm not in friends zone yet but getting close so I really need a way to start kino or this ones gone lol.

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I think you need to be very gentle, Kasa. Very light-handed, so to speak. She probably only reacts that way when she knows she's being touched, but what if she suddenly realises that your hand is at her lower back? Or if you offer to buy her driks and take her hand as you lead her to the bar? Try to make her not notice the act of laying your hands on her, but then make her notice that the hands are already on her. You'd be aiming for a response like "Hey, how did yor hand end up there? I didn't notice you laying it there." (verbal or not).

On a second note, I think she may be afraid of being touched by people she does not know well or trust. Perhaps you need to build some trust and connect with her more before going to the next stage?

As for me, I'm a very kino-type of guy in general. I don't have to act like if I wanted to touch her arm and that.

~ Nag

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good post, nice to know the science behind it

be like that touchy feely girl who you thought was in to you because of that but really is just that way with everyone. i'm sure most of us have encountered this in or less experienced days... or just me maybe?

i'm a strong believer that from when you first meet a girl, you have a 1-5 minute window to demonstrate a number of qualities to her or you'll put in the friends zone or worse, one of those qualities is being comfortable touching her. so ALWAYS kino in the first 5 minutes, if you don't in all likeliness you will never have sex with her.

what do you guys think of kino openers by the way?

i came up with this one...
direct version
PUA: "you're absolutely stunning, but beauty is common, so i have to know one thing about you....... are you ticklish?"
HB: yes/no/etc
PUA: tickle her regardless

less direct version for clubs
PUA: "hey you guys have a really chill vibe so i have to know one thing about you...... are you ticklish?"
is it better to tickle the target or another girl??

- CT

As for kino openers, I like the ones where you correct something about her appearance.

PUA: "Hi, if you wear your head up *lifts up hair a bit* like this, you'd look really stunning"
Girl: "Oh really, thanks. I'll consider it."
PUA: "Just my honest opinion. Hi, I'm [Name]"

etc

~ Nag

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Nice read.

Kino is a lot more natural than we like to think. This article touches on that (pun intended) by giving the science.

At the end of the day why not touch guys as well. No im being serious, shake hands, pat on the back tap on the shoulder to say hi.

Your not trying to pick them your giving a welcome thats completely natural. Obviously your Kino with women will be different but be the guy whos comfortable enough in his own skin to touch other people.

I guarantee you women will pick up on it.

Cheers

CTG

Hmm, this is some interesting stuff. And to be honest, I couldnt agree more... This is where im gonna work on in a suspense building way.

This girl I kinda got oneitis on, but seem te restrain and act cool with was @ my b-day party. When she came at my door I told her she looked lovely and gave her a hug. Did I anchor there?

Anybody any good ideas for anchors?

what if your hands are cold ...

Great! This really gave kino a whole new meaning!
Thanks!