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Plus I like the challenge of getting on a girls bad side at the start and throughout the conversation work my way into her good books and snag that number, k-close or f-close.
I am the same way alot of the times when out sarging. One of my favorite openers I use seems to work better with the more attractive women ie. hb 8.5+. Just walk into a set, I like doing it when they are already at the bar and ask:
PUA: which one of you girls is buying me a drink?
HB:I dont buy boys drinks.
PUA: Great, im a man. Ill have a _______
HB: Oh really!, well I think you should buy me the drink.
at this point its so easy to lead into the 5 questions game and the prize being a drink. At this point their usually hooked. Its golden if you have the balls to walk into the crowd of HB's and ask that question. I love the C/F style. Its always worked well for me..