f##k the Approach anxiety, heres how to get rid of it.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:17 am 
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Okay the biggest thing I see in AFC's in helping them, especially my friends is approach anxiety or "AA." Here is a simple mission with multiple benefits to help you.
Your mission is this: Go out and have fun. Not to get laid or pull and close a target, HAVE FUN!. Now I know what your thinking why I am I not trying to go into sets and close? Reason is your inner game is all fucked up, and the reason I'm mainly posting this is because bad approach anxiety. So do this and this is your only goal. Now I don't need to tell you how to have fun, that's like me choosing your taste in women that is my liking not yours, but i have a few guidelines for this.
1. Get out of the fucking house. You need to build your social skills and just talk to people.
2. Be sociable with people and don't look for or expect anything out of it. Remember JUST HAVE FUN.
3. If you do go into set don't be thinking of bullshit like whats my gambit, do I lock in now etc. Have fun and who knows maybe you will close as a side effect. Now I'm not saying If she doesn't want to lay not to, go ahead by all means. Just make sure you weren't trying to game her the whole time.
Hit me back if you have problems "Having Fun!" :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:28 am 
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Drinking has defeated AA for decades or more. In both senses.

But I guess I should offer something useful, too. When I was an AFC, I was always too scared to do anything. Being a PUA, I still get scared and I get rejected a shit ton more than ever before in my life. Obviously because I take more shots then ever before. I'm quickly learning that after being able to see IOI's, rejection is the most valuable part of the whole process for me. It's really not half bad once you start getting used to it. And when you stop fearing the consequences, it's much easier to take the risks. There should be a newbie mission to deliberately get rejected all day, except that wouldn't sell e-books.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:21 pm 
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rejection is the most valuable part of the whole process for me. It's really not half bad once you start getting used to it. And when you stop fearing the consequences, it's much easier to take the risks. There should be a newbie mission to deliberately get rejected all day, except that wouldn't sell e-books.
Hi Minsok, this resonates with me on a few levels. Firstly I am in London where the newbie mission just does not work. Most people are not friendly, and only some will smile back or say hi to you. Many will ignore you or not make eye contact.

For that reason I am finding it hard to gain anything from going out and saying hi to people because it rarely creates the desired effect. Occasionally a good looking woman will smile or even a few guys I say hi to will respond, but in general I can go out and not have anyone make eye contact and those that do will look away or ignore you. The newbie mission is therefore not something that can be applied to different cultures. I think it might be good in a mall in some friendly part of the US, but in the UK or some Asian country people react differently.

So there is a need for me to go to the next level without really having got anywhere with the newbie mission. I have been reading a book called "Change you life in 7 days" by Paul McKenna. He says that "there is no such thing as failure only feedback" so rejection has to be something that you experience and become desensitised to.

I am hypersensetive to rejection. I look younger than I am but I am 32 and have never had a relationship so my self esteem is truly in the gutter. If I get rejected in a bad way I know I will get suicidal thoughts, but there is no other way to learn apart from approaching. Saying hi to strangers just does not lead to any change in your inner game when you are in a big city and don't get many responses.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:59 am 
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really i use this in big cities. Remember fear of rejection is only natural. But, found that after everyone i had my skill raised while doing that. It pretty much rolls in your head and minute and bingo you remember what you did wrong. Believe it or not bad social skills affect your game. You become inept in conversations. If you can't have a nice free flowing conversation, how do you expect it to work with an hb? Once the normal conversations are good then your practice really begins. After you opener and you get to rapport all those times you conversation kicks in and you are relaxed and not actively thinking but doing like instinct.


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I found a thread here a few days ago that issued a challenge. I am to lazy to find the thread right now so I will just give you the basic idea. Go in for a kiss and get rejected 25 times. The rules were simple. It has to be a full blow out. Turning her head and giving you the cheek does not count. and you have to make your move at the first chance you perceive. If you think hey she might go for a kiss go for it. I have personally taken on this challenge and it is a lot harder then you might think. I'll find the link tomorrow and edit this post with the link. Later.


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I don't think your challenge would help that much.

Most guys who aren't good with women have had fun for many years without caring or anxiety. What happens eventually is they realize they want to get laid, but what they've been doing all this time hasn't helped. Then they read up on what it takes to become an attractive character, realize they're far from it, and THEN approach anxiety forms.

Some guys have fun shooting pool and talking sports with other guys. Others have fun getting drunk and acting like a jackass. Others are loud, tell lots of jokes, and crave attention. But only the guys who have fun flirting and are skilled at it get any action.

So, your challenge may be good for someone who's worked heavily on becoming a more attractive character, but it would be a step back toward ignorant bliss for anyone else.


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Its really not geared for AA. I just saw it earlier and thought I would post about it. That's all. It def helps getting over fear of rejection though.


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