What up. I'm new here, but been reading up on game for a bit, and reading the forum for several months. Some might disagree with me on this point, but I have concluded that for me personally, online 'game' has some flaws, and is not optimal for what I want to achieve. What I mean is, I think my game has eroded over the past 2 years (since I became single) due to not approaching girls and just doing online dating.

I have had so many first dates with girls I met online; some ended in makeouts, etc. Others ended early. Others were overnight. I do not count these as approaches. In some ways, I don't even feel successful from these.

It has been a year since I approached a girl in real life. A year! She was a leggy blonde walking down the street, and I couldn't let this one go. I stopped her and told her to take her earphones out, then asked directions to a store I knew was near (lame). She blushed and that made me nervous so I ejected.

So my deal with myself is I have to approach in real life. Online dating makes me feel less of a man; so I will not allow myself to sign up for online until real progress is made here. I'm talking numbers and dates. Must approach in real life. That first approach...man...I am not going to forget that one. Don't worry - I'm not looking for the perfect moment to approach. There is no perfect moment. I just need to get it done, blow out or not.

True words. I cancelled my 2 dating site profiles this morning. I have made the same promise. EVERY guru out there says PRACTICE!!! We need to start getting it on. I am afraid of rejection but this is natural and can be a good thing. Since, by rejection I learn where I have gone wrong. After 3-4 warm up sets we should be in the right 'state' for sarging.

Good luck

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Ignore the bad, praise the good.

I agree. I made a plentyoffish profile and although there are tons of decent looking chicks on there I felt very unmotivated to expand and pretty soon just quit the site altogether. I felt like I was wasting my time and what's the point of going on there if you don't have good real life game? You're just gonna fuck it up anyways. I think online game is probably great if you're already good at PU in real life but real life PU has so many more variables than online game.

Exactly what I was thinking. It has potential. But I could go out to the real world and make a connection with a stranger in a few minutes, rather than taking a week or two online. SOOO much more efficient. Online could be a bonus, maybe just for one night stands?

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Ignore the bad, praise the good.

Online Dating shields you from the actual twists and turns of the dating life. When you're online, you have 20,000 seconds to think before your next reply. Due to this, usually you do not mess up. This creates a false (to an extent) impression of yours on the other person's mind (and vice versa). And when you meet each other in real life and spend time together, somehow the same sparks don't fly. You don't match each other's expectations. You start running out of things to talk about and start comparing the current scenario with the "online" scenario which was significantly better and more interesting. At this point, you get bored and lose hope. That, is why I believe, online game isn't really the game.

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Women are plenty, time is not.

Online dating is really good for generating a bunch of average opportunities. While you are more likely to pick up the hotties in the field. Both approaches are good depending on what you are looking for but I agree that online dating can quickly become a formulaic crutch. It is nice for building your harem and ensuring that you are only sleeping alone when you want to.

Word. Good to hear you guys' viewpoints on this. It's a good decision. "formulaic crutch" for generating average opportunities is pretty pretty fuckin accurate. Ember - good on ya. I canceled pof 2 days ago. That site is jacked - can't even use that shit. Canceled match a few weeks ago. Into the field.

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well guys,my personal philosophy is that unless u live in a isolate area with no many women,online dating is more a problem than a solution

kick out the crutch, yeah? i can dig it.