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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:38 am 
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i have no idea but touching a girl even on the shoulder makes me feel awkward and nervous. is it becaue of a lack of confidence or what? i don't wnt to hear any gay jokes.

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This has been brought up multiple times by multiple guys. It is a very nasty fear. With the approaching thing... guys can rationalize this away with a quick "Well they talk to people all the time"... where as if you are touching then that doesn't happen constantly. I probably went a year without touching anyone new. Hell, probably longer than that.

But anyway, the way I have been working to get over it is to touch a woman on the shoulder/arm when you get their attention initially. This will break the "Touching" ice. And if you don't feel comfortable enough to touch them again after that then just relax. You don't have to. Touch the next girl you talk to when you start the convo. And the next.. and eventually it will become a normal thing for you to do.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:59 am 
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i have no idea but touching a girl even on the shoulder makes me feel awkward and nervous. is it becaue of a lack of confidence or what? i don't wnt to hear any gay jokes.
don't feel bad, i have the same problem...i'm so afraid of approaching a girl just to give an opener....shit....fuck myself


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:38 am 
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I don't know about you guys but SouthernCross likes Pie
Putang Pie!!!!!
If you want a slice of that pie you're going to have to get past something as simple as touching a women.

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If you are in a loud place you have a reason to lean in and hear them. Place your hand on their shoulder if it's exposed (it's skin to skin which will get them used to your touch but it's their shoulder so they won't worry). If their shoulder isn't exposed touch their forearm or lower back. In the beginning just don't keep your hand on them for very long. You're only doing it because you are trying to hear them, but it also serves the purpose of breaking the touch barrier.

If it's not a loud place run a trick on them that requires touching. Or use a neg that concentrates on a certain body part. If it's a neg about something on their face (nose wiggles, eyes are different sizes/colors) gently use a finger to curl their face towards you. If it's a neg about lower body (shoes, dress etc.) put your hand on their shoulder and gently push them away from you slightly.

I cannot emphasize the gently part enough...you are pushing them away as to get a better look at whatever you are negging. You are NOT literally shoving them. Once the neg is complete and she laughs pull her back in with a devious smile and say something like "Luckily for you I don't care about women's shoes." If she doesn't laugh or show an IOI you still have more work to do before escalating kino.

Once you do these enough times you'll build up enough confidence to be slappin asses all over the club.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:49 pm 
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Sometimes when you are throwing constant negs at her, you can use a playful little push. The greastest way to meet a women is after she accidently bumps into you or something, just say "wow you bumped into me, now i get to bump into you." she will play along, just make sure when you touch you touch with firmness, yet playfulness. I can't describe it, you just will feel it when you have it down. also when talking, just touch her. remember, if you feel uncumfterble she will always to, but if you feel natural, she has a WAY higher chance of feeling comfterble. Touching is about the easiast thing you can do, because after all to talk you have to think, but touching CAN be natural.


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I touch my self all the time. especially when im wearing one of my soft button down shirts. they feel so soft


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Hmm.. when you touch them, what are you thinking to yourself? for example are you thinking "i wonder if this is freaking her out" or what? If so then you arent thinking too highly of yourself at that point, communication involves touching sometimes, bottom line is if she gets freaked out, its her problem, not yours. at least thats my take on it, dont know if that helps.. I think i put my hand on a female almost EVERY time i talk to them, kinda wierd when i think about it, because i never thought about that before. hmm

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I always use the playfull push myself with women. I also never shake a woman's hand "What? Oh it's like that? Hug!"

Even men, you can slap them on the back to show dominance. But my favorite is the double hand shake where you shake with both hands. Shows dominance.


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