i have the best social proof one could ever ask for, a great fraternity, girls flock here and instanlty im DHV just by being here.....

ive never been good with girls....i had a fear about what to say so i never tried////


now after learning, im great at talking, and im hitting on really hot girls, that i can read are in to me!


so hot i feel almost unworthy to kiss them....


i mean im in complete control of negging, DHV, and i have kino going (talking close to her ear, playing with her hair, grabbing her ears...


even them blocking me from leaving....

to the point where my frat brothers are shocked at the new me! and are AMOGing me as a joke all night and yet she (really me too) fend them off almost the entire party...



yet ive failed to kiss close the last 5 chances in 3 nights (5 diff HB 8s n above)....i get to that point, where im in control and shes SOIng me...



and then i freeze! please help me! i almost feel like im in over my head....i just feel so sad after i realize how close ive been with these girls i couldnt of even talked to last year!

i get the kino, the traingulr gazing, and i just cant close! im
NOT even a virgin, its just my suddeen ease at PU on hot girls has me stuck at the k close and frankly its embarrasing, its not congruent with the rest of my PU.....please help! is it my inner game?

Yes, it's your inner game.
Just keep dating them, keep kino'ing them, you'll suddenly overcome that anxiety.

man... u just have to kiss one to get over the anxiety... after that it should be a piece of cake... its like anything else in life... when somthing really good starts happening to you it also scares you and causes anxiety... correct me if i am wrong but i am getting the sense that u r still in disbelief of this new found ability and scared that if you make the wrong move things might go back to the way it used to be...
guess what brother... now u r a PUA... so get used to ur new lifestyle... best of luck!

well....so the trend has continued....last night i was sarging with good kino at least 4 new HB 8s and im getting the puppy dog face faster and faster each night i do this!

i finally got to the kiss close that i had been havin trouble with...except it was only a HB7 and she pretty much threw herself at me....

but i had a few more chances with those girls i had missed the k close (my post above) and still i missed them again.








I guess im having this problem:

im getting the HB8s to the sad puppy face (dialated pupils to the max) and i can get it to be just one on one, (they push AMOGs away! )

so like its going well...and theres attraction, but it just seems like im missing something on going from attraction to kiss close


and the problem is that the longer we hang in this attraction and comfort phase the more AMOGing i have to deal with and wiereder it gets to just get a phone number and eject.



should i be trying to do more than just isolate? (like as in its too wierd for her to kiss in the open of a bar/frat house..so maybe a couch?,....but that seems pretty hard to not seem foward doing that)

take her to dance so it kind of cements the kino and togetherness? (reading if shes kiss ready ive noticed seems easier on the dance floor)



i feel like im just spending too much to time in the attraction/comfort phase and i need help going to kiss close without seeming like an AFC asking for a kiss.



is it possible my C& F needs some more SOIs?

Dude,that is pure inner game.

Being afraid to kiss-close,especially when you have the chance,is like fighting in a wrestling match,holding the opponent in a cradle lock,and then,for no reason,letting go because "You couldn't go through with it".That is called half-assing,and in the real world,that means FAILURE.

Take a cue from Nike dude:

JUST DO IT.

I do not mean to be harsh,as that is the last thing I want to come off as,but seriously man,you have so much advantages,and basically,throw everything away at the last minute.

Not fucking acceptable.

Do it.The next post should be "I did it,and realized it was no big deal,and I am ready for the next step."

Just remember,most guys would kill for that kind of social proof.DONT WASTE IT.

nsquared, you're beating yourself up mentally.
Missed opportunities it happens to rookies alot.
Some positive things You've taken time to actually learn this GAME
something 99% of guys refuse to do. You've managed to attract some fine women good job.

Now let's think about this: Example: An HB(9) let's just call her "Becky"
who u managed to attract. You see the sign's of her inviting a kiss
but YOU FAIL to act. So the next day you're thinking I fucked up let me try again with Becky. But the next time you see Becky at one of your parties she's making out with one your frat brothers "Trent" Trent the next day tells you and the rest of your frat buddies how he waxed that ass all night long and then they continue to bang the next night and the next and so on.
Now think about how that should and could have been you banging Becky.

So in the end you let some guy with no GAME out do u at the GAME(sad). Yes, Girls hookup up with other guys all the time and can give a damn about you taking days, weeks, months to grow some nuts to finally make a move on them

That just an example but this stuff happens I've seen it happen to guys
So get over the I'm afraid to kiss crap NOW

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Effort surpasses Talent, but of course I already have Talent I'm just putting Effort on Top of that

What SouthernCross said is so so true
Great example story of what typically happens

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So u think you can handle this?

If you are having trouble initiating it I always find that on off nights mystery's "Do you want to kiss me?" always works.
Other than that you could isolate somewhere a bit quieter and then just triangle gaze and move in.
Think of the signals as more than just indicators you can kiss her, more they are indicators that she WANTS you to kiss her. So get your ass in there and give the nice lady what she wants!

She may also want breakfast in the morning, may have to budget for that...

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