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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:00 pm 
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This Alpha male thing is thrown around way too much. There can be only one alpha male, and guys will either concede to another guy or fight for the title for it. If you're shy around other guys, you're not the alpha, it's as simple as that. It doesn't mean you can't get girls, we're more socially structured beings than animals, it depends on more than that but obviously as everyone knows, if you're the alpha of the group everything is easier.
Not to mention people are alpha for a reason, outgoing, fun, interesting etc. Basically if you want to become an alpha male, truly become better at social situations. Working out isn't needed though it will help your health. In our society we view an alpha as someone who leads the social interaction for a group. So do exactly that but you need the qualities to do so and be respected and followed.

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If you are shy around alpha males you are subconsiously beta.

Sometimes when I'm not feeling 100% just being around other alpha males would bother me.

It is about confidence...BOTTOMLINE.

When my game is on however I always befriend the AMOG then DLV him in front of HB's.

Remember to cut him down slowly and friendly as to not start a fistfight.

HB's will think you are supercool as you DLV the AMOG.

If the AMOG is on to your game....just tell em bro's before ho's and be wings for eachother in the future LOL


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Just like your mindset (or much beter, your true believe) is girls should be honored that you even talk to them, you should always consider yourself more alpha than any other guy. That cockyness or even arrogance should also apply on men around you. Not that you should ACT like that, but as long as you believe those other guys are ok, but certainly not more alpha than you are, you'll be ok and you'll manage.

I would never look serious when other alpha enter the scene. But have a look in your eyes and on your face, like you are enjoying seeing an other guy doing his thing, 'cause you couldn't care less what he does.

Plus, don't forget; you can be beaten. That's part of the game. Don't get mad about it. But improve your game. And don't let it happen to you again.

I wouldn't try to lay contact to an other alpha as some here suggest. Let him lay contact with you. But keep an open posture. You should almost always have an open posture, 'cause you don't fear anything. And if you lay contact for whatever reason, shit might happen somehow, say something positive about the girls around. Even better is when you say something like 'that girl is good, you might want to check her out', with this comment you place him below you 'cause you even invite him to do his thing; you show that you don't fear him at all, and even give him advice.

Saying that there can be only one alpha at any place at a give time is of course not true. It may often end up like that, but it doesn't start that way. When two alpha lions meet, they battle it out, and one wins, but before the battle started, there were in fact two alpha's at that place, at that sepcific time.

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The best thing to do here is just relax and keep talking.

The person who dominates the conversation is the most " alpha" person.

I just got back from NYC and the guys there in the house music scene are huge, jacked up on steroids and other drugs and super aggressive. Yet if you keep talking and avoid their physical escalations you'll do fine. Make sure that you keep the conversation girl relevant instead of guy relevant and try to isolate the girl away from him. This is where high buying temperature material like mini cold reads, teases, role plays, funny stories, etc... come into play.

Pump her BT isolate her and then game her like normal.

Also make sure you're finding out the relationship btw them.

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Some of these posts have been spot on about the way I have felt in social circles and in social situations with people that I think are more 'alpha' than me.

I think I get more nervous and anxious when I meet someone who I think is more alpha than me because I feel this need to be in control of everything. Like if I am hanging out with someone with a perceived lower value than me than me I am very comfortable because I feel like I can control the conversation etc. This need to be in control is a negative belief that brings me to more anxiety, and probably you guys too.

About social circles putting you down, this is true, and it is very hard to find friends that won't put you down to strive further. Especially if your a late teen or early adult (i'm 20), we mature earlier in these kind of ways being introverted (so I think), and some extroverts just seem to do whatever they want with little consideration.

When I think about people and their social circles and the so called alpha males in the groups, they're mainly alpha because they have a gf, most of the group likes them and listens to them, but without the support of the group, would they still be alpha? some yes, many that are in their teenage years, I do not think. I have seen the alpha in my social circle crumble when he feels like his not in control. Though most alpha males are fun, loud etc, but also can be complete assholes with their power.


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I know exactly how you feel, what I find is depending on which set of friends I go out with this can be different.

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One of my friends #1(who I happen to go out with often) can be an alpha male when it comes to talking to groups of girls but then I get shy and end up standing there saying nothing.

Now when I go out with my other friend #2(who i havent chilled with in a while as we dont live near each other any more) we ae both as loud as each other itss like we feed each others egos and become and feel dominant. When we go to a club or a bar we are so out going and dont care or even notice any other guys in fact guys start coming up to us and starting conversation.

When I go out with friend #2 we always have a good night where as with friend #1 I dont. I feel as though friend #1 is like an energy stealer/cock block as when its the other way around i.e. he's the one standing around being quiet, he then becomes miserable and subdue all night and ruins the vibe as I suppose I do when it happens to me.

Anyway the point am trying to make is it can depend on who you are with at the time. If your on your own then you kinda need to develop the relationship I have with friend #2 inside of yourself so you feed your own ego and just shine without depending on anyone else to do so with you.


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I know exactly how you feel, what I find is depending on which set of friends I go out with this can be different.

For example:

One of my friends #1(who I happen to go out with often) can be an alpha male when it comes to talking to groups of girls but then I get shy and end up standing there saying nothing.

Now when I go out with my other friend #2(who i havent chilled with in a while as we dont live near each other any more) we ae both as loud as each other itss like we feed each others egos and become and feel dominant. When we go to a club or a bar we are so out going and dont care or even notice any other guys in fact guys start coming up to us and starting conversation.

When I go out with friend #2 we always have a good night where as with friend #1 I dont. I feel as though friend #1 is like an energy stealer/cock block as when its the other way around i.e. he's the one standing around being quiet, he then becomes miserable and subdue all night and ruins the vibe as I suppose I do when it happens to me.

Anyway the point am trying to make is it can depend on who you are with at the time. If your on your own then you kinda need to develop the relationship I have with friend #2 inside of yourself so you feed your own ego and just shine without depending on anyone else to do so with you.


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Let me tell you a very classical way of looking at what you said. What I mean by this is that this is what you are kind of supposed to say as an answer to a question like this so take it as that kind of response.

The reason why you become shy around alpha males whereas without them you are "the cool guy" is because you know that you are not a cool guy and when you are around one you can see it because you have something to compare yourself to. I know this because I'm similar to you. Girls see me as the alpha male while inside I'm a loser. But the fact remains. To remove the feeling you have means to become yourself. That is the answer. The reason why you become introverted around alpha males is because if you continue trying to act cool around them everyone will see through it, not through the things that you say (because they obviously won't change) but purely from the body language. Also under stress it has been proven that the human mind is inefficient so in fact what you say will be affected by that stress that the alpha male is causing you. Funny how practically everything in life leads back to the one elusive and mind boggling state of being yourself :P . (I have not yet reached it myself so I can't comment on its existence)


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