ive always been okay with women.. i get my fair share of girls... after i read the book The Game, i had a whole new outlook... now when im talking to a girl i cant stop thinkin about what to say or the which story to use.. if anything my success rate has dropped...also now that i have openers in my mind and follow ups im more scared to approach women because now im actually scared of failure or having wasted my time reading all these articles/others sites, because if failed i will be even more scared to try these routines and wont become the PUA ive read about and desire to become... help?

lastly ive used these routines a couple of times but i get stuck and into akward moments that suck.. how can u transition to an open convo where the girl opens up and shares to show interest/trust?

don't just do routines, but be interested as well. listen, tune in, open.
problems of starting are prolly related to stagefright, do some breathing excersises, relax, keep your eyes on the big picture, observing the success/failure of single steps in the approach first, adjust until you get there. my2c.

jprich,

Your post hit home with me because I have had those feelings you are discussing above and remember them very very well. It sounds like you know what you need to do but it's getting in the way. First of all, you need to give yourself permission to fail. It's going to happen period. Mystery failed for 8 years before teaching this stuff, Style does, and so does everyone else at some point and even to this day fails. Why should you be any different?

I hate to use this anology but think of it like riding a bike. When you first tried without the training wheels you probably fell off got scraped up a bit and it was the end of the world. You didn't want to ride again. You hated the idea of being hurt and felt embarrassed. It was the fear or what was going to happen that made you not want to ride. Then you plowed through it...kept going and you got better. This is in no way different. You are going to have to plow through your own fear of failure.

As far as for some other tips in field this is something Sinn posted I think would help you. I know it helped me out.

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Finally, to transition from Opening to Conversation. I like to keep things as simple as possible, because it's easy to remember and sounds natural. After running an "opener" I will just say, "Oh that reminds me...." or "Oh my god, I have to tell you about the time..." It's simple and effective. It sounds like you just thought of something and then you can bridge into a story of your choice to tell the group or lady.

I truly hope this helps you get going. Long and short of it is stop thinking so much. Make more moves in field. Stay in the set as long as possible. DO NOT EJECT! I repeat DO NOT EJECT! Stay in the set until they leave if you have to. Force yourself to fight through the awkward moment.

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

Eerything you just said there, every negative or limiting thing you mentioned. The Game isn't at fault nor is The Community. Sure they had the ideas of it that you absorbed, but the only person at fault really is yourself. Now I don't mean that in a "You suck and should be ashamed of yourself" kind of way... Cos well... That'd be weird... That doesn't help at all does it? I'm not the one that started it, you were.

Self Talk, how is it? Are you repeatedly putting yourself down and comparing yourself to other people?
What use does it have for you? What has to happen in your mind or in the outside world for you to make yourself feel this way?

Your living in past mistakes, what about past victories? What about the girls you got without even ANY of the 'taught' skills.

What about the times you made a girl laugh? Or smile? Or had the balls to talk to one? What about the times you learned something new, tried it, fucked up and tried it again and ended up succeeding?
The victories that come from a failure are the sweetest, its most definite measurement of your progress.

What stops you from congratulating on yourself for making a commitment to learning new ways of fulfilling women?

If a certain technique doesn't seem to be working for you, don't do it.

You're thinking too much, all these 'imagined' failures are annoying you. People, including women, like you alot more than you think they do. And yes, that's a proven fact.
Instead of looking for times of distance with women, look for the times of openness, look to have a good time with them, instead of avoiding having a bad time.

They don't know what you're thinking, they don't know what you're feeling and they want an excuse to like you.

Write up all the things you know the best about and find ways to drop them into conversation, list all of your best features mentally and physically and display them.

You REALLY do have alot of good qualities, you're self doubt makes them transparent to you. Be your own best friend and the features will become more obvious.

Who wants to hang out with a guy who puts you down? Who ants to have a guy like that in his mind?!

You're not bad at this at all, its all in your mind, you just have to find a way to kick the crap out of mental barriers and become not the guy you were but a guy far greater than you ever were.

firstly thank you for the reply... but i have no self doubt what so ever... let me more clear ... before i started reading about PUA's... i was gettin action... now im not saying im not anymore im still doing well.. but it seems harder to follow a script then just go with the flow,,, niow after wtching videos i see how this is very good and can really work... i just dont no why i cant follow these routines.. they always seem to fuck up...they are extremely genius and mystery/style/ any PUA are all extremely talented and smart... but for some reason this creates extra aniexty for me and now when im tlakikng to a girl even without the routine im stuck thinking if i should throw a story or ESP... y wont the routines go well when i do them?

Ever heard someone else tell a really good story or joke, and have everyone laughing, but when you tell the exact same story or joke to another group it flops? Its the same kind of thing. What sounds good coming from the writer can sound dumb and pointless coming from you, and what the people you interact with think about is probably different from the hypothetical people the writer is thinking of. Your going to have to either drop the routine or customize them a bit.

I can never say material I planned before hand. I've given speeches in front of big crowds, and I've never planned word for word what I'm going to say, because that would fuck with my head. I never even give the same speech twice in the same way, I always make little changes or improvements, because the memory of the first time puts some kind of echo in my head and messes me up, taking all the energy and natural spontanuity out of my voice so that I can't speak naturally and sound like I'm reading a script. Maybe you have the same issue. Its something you need to figure out.