A shocking thing happened last Saturday at work. While chatting up a hot chick (who is studying to be a nurse) she brings up, at one point, guys that she has met out being outright jerks. Nothing new, I'm thinking, then she goes on and rattles off a a bunch of guys that told her about "The Game" and how they believe they need to treat women poorly in order to get them into bed.

I was gob smacked. For reasons;

1. Some guys are interpreting this stuff like idiots interpret the bible. Don't take your own meaning, it's pretty clear, don't be an outright jerk.

2. They have all referred to their "tactics" as PUA.

3. They all openly told her and her friends, (This isn't just one occurrence) , where they "got their information".

Do we have to start applying "The 8 rules of Fight Club" method to PUA? Seriously, it's one thing to bomb-out with a pick-up but to say the PUA community is like this, that's just a sore loser.


Am I alone here?

P.s. I am an outright terrible person to some girls, but I wouldn't in a million years tell them it's something I learnt from PUA, that would just screw up the chances of so many guys.

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I think guys take "negs" and not being a push-over to mean that to attract a girl you have to be a total asshole. It doesn't even say that in The Game. The guys just misinterpreted it.

Another thing, I don't get why guys tell girls about PUA. What is their to gain?

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Exactly! It's poor form if you ask me.

The first rule of PUA is; you do not talk about PUA.

Second rule of PUA; you do not talk...

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I voted YES.


I can't believe those tards told the girls the source. Wtf were they thinking?

I don't talk to any of my friends about PUA stuff, and certainly no girls.

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The community is no secret, we are everywhere and everyone knows about us. Give up the idea of belonging to an esoteric underground network.

Natural game > scripted game. Hell, even if using scripted game girls don't give a fuck if your natural game and nner frame is tight. I don't advertize my involvement here but am proud of stepping forward to make the changes I seek, and certainly don't deny it. I even talk to girls about it so I can see what they feel about it and what its lke when guys use our skills on them.

You are all exposed, its ok, you aren't gonna loose any friends or girls.

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I tell a lot of women about it, if you are using things from the game you deserve to be caught out for having crap unimaginative game

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i clicked yes
for a few reasons
1. these guys saying the`re pua where really they probably just watched a few episodes of the pick up artist Does not make them PUA`s i learning this i don`t even call myself a PUA yet as i have a lot to learn i just pass what I know already

2. if you tell a hb your a pick up artist she knows your trying to game her and this makes things a lot harder for the guy

3.if your a magician after you have performed the trick you don`t go and say by the way here is how I a did it (unless your Pean and Teller) you have to keep some mystery and awe to make people come back for more it should the same for pua`s

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I totally agree. Thing is, how do we get people to follow the rule. I mean sure, people know about us, BUT, they dont know whos IN unless you tell them. So how do we go about making these rules official? - Redkid

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1st rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club
2nd rule of Fight Club is you DO NOT talk about fight club

It's ok to discuss it with your wing but when trying to game a girl don't bring it up. Leave them in the dark, don't let them know your true intentions so they can't prepare themselves for a defence. Of course rule can be broken if you have sick game or just trying to give yourself a challenge.

I can see 2 reasons why guys would tell girl about 'The Game' and PUA

1) The want to convey to the girl that they have read about it and hence know all about it and hence are interesting and good with women.

2) They dont want the girls to be gamed using the canned materials they already used on those girls

Either wyas these guys are dumb and must have just watched a few episodes of the reda a few books but cant apply anything much and hence they feel the need to talk about it.

Don't mean like you should feel free to talk about PUA stuff when you're tryng to sarge, thats like wearing your game on your face... not good.

Rules of the seduction community:

1: Do not talk about PUA*
2: DO NOT TALK ABOUT PUA*
3: We are not your personal therapists
4: There is no such thing as rejection.
5: If you use common routines/lines, expect common responses.
6: Reading <u>The Game</u> does not make you a PUA.
7: Everyone has their unique problems; you are not a special snowflake.
8: Any noise, gesture or expression is progress over not approaching.
9: Naturals are your best resources.
10: You cannot not play the game.

*Only applies to pickups.

elaborate on this.

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toad-ally agree

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I have dated guys that were into pua and I knew about it....these guys were the most fun! And let me tell you, it is really hot when a guy says to a woman, "I know exactly how to turn you on." And then naturally, the girl will say "how do you know"? And he explains how he can pick up on every hint her body language gives and he generally knows how to push the right buttons. A girl will be curious but as long as you are good, telling her you are a pua is not a bad thing. It will intrigue her...make her wonder, "can he really turn me on? I want to see him try." It is basically a perfect set-up to start getting sexual.

I do understand that there are some amateurs out there calling themselves pua's. I agree, just because you say a couple episodes of The Pickup Artist doesn't mean you are a pua and they may be hurting the reputation of real pua's.

I think its ok if you have THAT MUCH confidence and I don't see a problem in saying to a girl "I'm going to touch you in ways no other guy will touch you and talk to you no other guy will", but when you say "I'm a Pick Up Artist dontcha know!?" you will no doubt get an odd look which frankly I don't blame them for.

So yes, basically a repetition of what was said below in my opinion. I'm no expert and will openly say that I am a n00b somewhat and haven't practiced too much recently (back home from uni staying in a small market town with a small circle of friends, basically back where I was trying to run from, not that I'm making excuses... )