By the way, Chief, since you mentioned mASF, I HATE a lot of the guys at mASF. That place is so mean, insulting, oppressive, and awful. Also a lot of guys over there are so anti-knowledge and anti-techniques. They say don't learn anything. They say to just go out in the field. There are a lot of stupid bullies over there. The people who act like that generally suck at pua. I have dealt with some stupid people in my life, and I have noticed something: stupid people hate to learn and they hate to use their brains. Seriously! Also, stupid people believe that they already know what they need to know and they reject other people's advice. I, on the other hand, have a 140 IQ and I am always seeking the best advice I can get from the world's greatest experts in whatever area I need to improve in. That's one of the major differences between stupid people and smart people: smart people like to learn. Stupid people hate learning and act like it's a waste of time. Maybe it actually is a waste of time for them because they're too stupid to understand what is in books or to be able to apply that information in the real world.

I think it's great to study a lot of things like you do. A lot of awesome mpua's have studied so much, that they dwarf my own efforts, even though I study a lot of things. I know of one mpua named Brian who said "I read these books 10 times, I listened to those audio courses 5 times..." and so on. This same guy had also been a multi-millionaire.

Seduction is a deep and complex subject. There's a lot of things that you'd never figure out yourself just by sarging in the field. We are talking about learning how to manipulate another human brain, the female brain. That HAS to be a pretty complex and sophisticated subject. The human brain is the most complex and awesome thing in the universe. There are still many things we don't know about how it works. So to say that we don't need to study how to manipulate the female brain is assinine.

I have noticed that master pua's in general are very smart people who have studied everything they could as well as doing a lot of sarging. Stupid people usually suck in pua just like they suck in almost everything.

Smarter guys actually have a TON of disadvantages, and I'll tell you the three most common ones right now:

1. Smarter men tend to overanalyze situations and find illusory correlations all over the place.

2. Smarter men tend to think so much that they don't leave any room to FEEL. In fact, a lot of smart men wouldn't even know how to "feel" something to the degree in which they think about something. Unfortunately for smart men, the GAME is more than 90% feeling rather than thinking.

3. The brains of smarter men are a lot more flexible and well-exercised in terms of psychological self-defense mechanisms. Smarter men may not appear to have bigger egos than their less intelligent counterparts, but they actually have the biggest egos of all, and it's their greatest obstacle to making real change for themselves. Smart men can rationalize almost anything, making positive change harder than passing a camel through a needle hole.

Assuming that you get better at pickup, re-read your post here a few months or even a year from now. Or, if you're REALLY smart, re-read it NOW and notice aaaallllll that rationalization in your post.

mASF may be very elitist, but there's a reason for their prestige in the seduction community. Hell, just a decade or two ago, they WERE the seduction community.

Oh, and seduction CAN definitely be a deep and complex subject, but it can also be the most simple thing ever.