I don't know, this may be just me venting, but I was at a dinner with a couple of my regular friends and was giving a field report of a very successful day I might add. Still coming off the buzz of a beautiful kiss close, I began to tell the story to a couple of my friends at the end of the table, I knew some of my other friends wouldn't care so much, so I didn't make an effort to talk to the whole table.

In the middle of my story, I was interrupted by this girl who I played DnD with (yeah I'm a huge nerd), who sharply asked, "oh, are you playing 'the game?'" She proceeded to insult the method and saying that I was a loser for doing it, I kind of lost it and called her on her shit, saying that she had no idea what it's like being a nerdy guy growing up and being that guy who never was able to work up the courage, or even know what to do around women.

After that, I held silence, it kind of ruined my night. Any advice. Sorry, I felt like they were insulting my martial arts or something, the game works! and I feel like it's made me a better more confident person.

So, this girl was NOT at the table with you and your friends, and she just
stopped by where you were sitting to tell you this?

If she was or was not at the table does not matter.

If she brought this up to you, then she wants you to "game" her. She is
looking for someone who knows what in the hell they are doing around/with
females.

She is really liking that you know how to play the game man. Game this
D&D chick, she will love it a lot... and so will you XD.

Hell man, you will be thanking me after you lay this D&D chick.

Good luck and GAME ON...

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She was sitting at the table with us and overheard me speaking at the other end of the table ( about 10 people at the table ). Only problem is I don't want to game her: 1 she's not very attractive and 2 I have no interest in her whatsoever.

Her comments were made after a buddy of mine complimented me on my date. I may have overreacted by getting angry, but... well, here's what I said:

her: oh, you're playing the game aren't you?
me: if that's what you want to call it (me not angry yet), I'm just having a good time
her: oh yeah you're soo cool doing magic tricks and mind reading (mockingly)
group: (laughing)
me: (now angry) look, if it were so stupid why has it shown me so much success? (cool girls I've met too!)
her: well, if 'those' are the type of girls you are after...
me: no! (now pretty pissed) you have no idea what it's like growing up being a nerdy guy (mind you I was at a table full of nerdy guys), standing in the corner being nerdy and shit, is that what you'd like to see?
her: I don't go to parties...
me: completely irrelevant

Then I just dropped the conversation, the whole table kinda went quietly, and I called my friends out on their shit for laughing at me. I mean, this is coming from a girl that has been nerdy forever (which I don't mind), and probably heard of the game from 4chan or something.

My point is that how can something that has made me feel so good and has improved my confidence not only in relationships with girls and has boosted my abilities as a salesperson be so bad? She has not even SEEN outside of nerdy setting, this is the first time I even bring it up around this group of people.

Also! Mind you this is no personal insult to her, but she's got two mothers, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't any inherent bias against men in general.

Thanks for listening.

Thanks for clearing a few things up man.

Yeah, this girl seems like a man-hater to me. But, on a side note, I do
think she is attracted to you based on the comment that she said,
"If you want girls like that." (Or however it was worded).

Congrats on your new found confidence and success once again.

Do not let your friends or some chick throw off your game man.

People seem to dis-approve of what they don't understand.

People seem to treat anything new as some sort of plague.


Keep doing what you are doing, do not falter in your quest friend.

You are making all of us here proud. A new PUA in the making. XD

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So sayeth Napoleon Hill in "Think and Grow Rich." Pickup is about aiming high and developing the skills to accomplish your aims. One of my friends disapproves of me trying to learn pickup. She thinks I should just let romance happen where it will. To me, that seems like aiming low and just accepting what I'm given. Most people will encourage you to "just be yourself;" if you ask what happens if you're not naturally smooth enough to attract the women you'd like to date, they'll try to feed you something like, "Those kinds of girls don't deserve you." In my opinion, that's just AFC code for "You're aiming too high." This is about being self-determined, about deciding what you want and then getting it. I don't necessarily like all of the goals or methodologies of every branch of pickup, but I'm certainly not going to let that stop me from learning the tools that I want to use to accomplish my goals for my social and romantic life.

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Thanks man, I really appreciate it, I guess the reason why this forum is so popular with regulars is that it must be kinda hard to talk to anyone about PUA outside of people who believe in it.

I was talking to a friend who could DEFINITELY benefit from PUA, this is a guy with zero confidence and never takes any risks at all! I tried talking to him about it, but just got the "yeah yeah..." so, I guess I'll just keep training by myself, discipline and training are no new thing to me, being a martial artist has taught me that a lot of times, you just have to depend on yourself and take what you can from the teachers that come to you.

I agree. Congratulations

This happened to me too. When I first changed I got shit tests flying from every direction, but I kept doing it and I challenged them - after a while they accepted it. You kind of lost your head there, but it's happened to me... It was about something else, but I was angry and wanted to kick some ass!

Hahaha, you should game that chick just to prove to her that it works. Then refuse. That should piss her off a little bit It's like when a fat girl becomes hot, then she seduces the men who made fun of her - then rubs it in their faces. LMAO! You should've like shown her a magic trick or something! Then cold read her XD

But that's just me. I don't mind stoking the fire; I enjoy seeing the other person get pissed off, when the time calls for it. I guess this would be AMOGing and passing S*** tests.

(Leprechaun, I am not calling you out on a flame war. Calm down.)

Keep going strong.



RS.

I don't do flame wars, so it's all good. It's just opinions here, right. XD

Also, I agree with your post about this guy gaming this girl that insulted the
style. I should've thought about that, but I did not. Congrats roxstar for
adding that in.

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Stop being insecure about this stuff. I've been called by a female friend on the whole player thing ONCE, and my response was to start hitting on her. BADLY. I combined cheesy pickup lines and just started throwing them at her.

"Nice shoes. Want a pizza?"

"Was your dad a thief? Because I can see myself in your pants."

"Hey, let me check the label on your shirt. Wanna fuck?"

"If I could rearrange the alphabet, your shirt would look great on my bedroom floor."

It didn't help me get with her, but it was fun.

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Little off-topic but,
F'ing hell, I love Dungeons and Dragons and I wouldn't call myself a nerd (more of a geek). And trust me I don't let that fact bring me down. DnD is not nerdy it is something that requires a great imagination, and is in essence roleplaying.

You know what PUA is? Its roleplaying, only this time its real! Also when I tell other people that I play DnD I don't act ashamed of it, I joke, and if you notice them grinning and you want to piss them off act like they directly insulted you. I don't take that sh*t from people. Likewise there are many ways of presenting things in your life in an interesting way to someone. Like I always say, DnD is really, about you living the story in a book, you being the hero.

That reminds me of hilarious story, back this summer when I was working for the vacation. I talked to a guy who also played DnD, and I told him about a D20 Modern campaign I did, and I told him the story with a lot of excitement as if it was literally me, about how I was dodging grenades and bullets, and how the SWAT team was on our ass. One of the girls at work a 9, overheard and was like you "YOU DID ALL OF THIS?"... I took it from there

Man, I am gonna make it a personal goal to teach a pretty girl DnD one day

Do you know who else loves DnD? Lol, Adam Lyons.

Wow that is freakin great! Ya know, I guess it's just the stress that's making me uncomfortable recently, I should go back to the fun way of enjoying conversation without worrying about impressing anyone, but have the new-gained confidence from PUA!

So many great stories from DnD... so many. Like punching a guy out in a bar by rolling 3 20s... amazing!

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