Romance is such an abysmal department of my life! I feel like I'm missing out on life, being 26 and never having sex or a girlfriend, when it's all I've ever really wanted. I've had opportunities in the past and even right now to sleep with fat chicks.. And I feel bad because other than their appearance these girls are fantastic people. I'm talking to one now, very humorous, down to earth she's an RN and makes good money.. But with her build and her look.. I'm just not sexually attracted.. Should I just look past it and try to force myself through it? She's really is awesome but I'm not turned on by the though of her naked once so ever.

I've had such a rough time trying to find a girl to date who I also find attractive.. Hence my 26 year old virginity. I consider going to an escort just so I can have one night of perfection in my life. If I went on a date with one it would most likely be the best night of my life but the ramifications would be bad.. I'd know there'd be lots of tears in the morning when she leaves.. I'd get attached and want to spend the next day and the next day with her.. So that I could have something that resembles a normal loving relationship. I'd likely find myself addicted and I don't have the money to do it night after night.

Ok dude, I had to reply to this thread because my situation is practically the same as yours, only I'm a few years younger.

That first paragraph rings a lot of bells... I've had opportunities, not really fat chicks but more chicks I wouldn't even look at if I wasn't drunk. Alcohol led me to bed with those chicks, but as soon as the moment of truth came, I would suddenly become lucid, realise they didn't attract me at all, and either chat for a bit or leave. Those chicks were nice, mind you, but like you say, the thought (and image) of them naked didn't arouse me at all.

At times I wondered if there was anything wrong with me. I mean, having opportunities and bitching about she "not being the right girl"? It sucks. A few years ago, I was pretty sure I was going to lose my virginity to a prostitute, my friends and I were all going to go to a brothel (my friends didn't know I was a virgin though).

Belive me, I know the idea sound good. I mean, you want you first time to be something awesome, right? Well, an escort might seem a good idea right now, but believe me, IT IS NOT. It's one of those things you know you're gonna regret the day after, and you will probably be scarred for life - and that means all subsequent interactions with women.


But what to do, then?

You probably feel like you have the worst luck ever. Look, honestly... life isn't easy on anyone. You have to fight for what you want. You want a cool, cute girl you can have sex with and possibly date, right? Then we're on the same page, and here's my advice: don't settle for anything you don't want - especially if it's going to be forced.

But also don't wait for that cutie to drop in your lap someday: look for her. Don't give up man!


Feel free to PM me about this kind of stuff, I know sometimes it's hard but believe me, you're no alone dude

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Stop being a bitch man... Realize you're a fucking man.. Grab your nuts and throw them around.... Use your fucking body and mind that magically appeared together under your control to achieve the things you want... If you want a sexy girl with a sexy body, I'm guessing that type of girl will want a guy with a sexy body - do you have that? No? then work for it.. Be what you want from a girl (to a certain extent) and you will attract a girl with similar qualities.

I really like this from ezco2001. It is so true. It is so interesting how many women are out there all the time, around the clock, looking looking looking (you can see them looking) - if for nothing than out of boredom but they don't hide their intentions very well it is clear they are looking for some fun & excitement.

OP do not go through with it with the portly girl. Avoid the escort. You're still young. A night with an escort would not be perfection because deep down your brain would know she's only there for the $. It would not set things off on a good footing for you.

You have to ask yourself how many interactions are you having with people of the opposite sex on a weekly basis where you are leading things to a close (# close, pull to another location close, etc.) If the answer is zero then that's like a baseball player complaining that he doesn't have any hits this season despite being on the injured list. You have to be in the game in order to get the result you want.

Me, personally, I would fuck the fat girl for a confidence booster.

I've found throughout my life that if I don't have any girls to bring over, I can always get a fatter girl over if I need some. I'm not attracted to fat girls, but I can still have sex with them.

I think the further along in life you go without having sex, the more you fantasize about that "perfect" situation, and the situations in your head are never as perfect as the fantasy; it's always different. Here's a quick example:

This dude I knew, a 23 year old virgin, he goes back to Michigan for his brother's wedding. He needs to fly back to Texas, so his sister's friend drive's him to the air port, an hour away. His flight is canceled, so the girl tells him he can stay at her place.

He goes there, he then ends up laying in bed with her, both of them in their underwear. What happens? Nothing. He made out with her, but didn't push it any further.

I asked him why in the hell he would not fuck her, and he said "I didn't get any signals."

I then asked him why he ended up in her bed in the first place, he said it was because there wasn't a T.V. in the guest bedroom.

So I asked him this "Dude, let's say the exact same scenario happened with me instead of the girl, and I told you that you could stay at my place, which is fine. Would you take it as a signal if I told you to lay in my bed with me because the guest T.V. didn't work?"

It's all about perspective. His fantasy never told him that he may end up in this situation, so he ignored all signals that didn't align with his fantasy. Opportunities for sex pop up out of nowhere, and when you accidentally turn it down, only afterwards do you realize that you missed a sure thing.

Anyway, I would suggest having sex with the bigger girl. It will break your cycle, you can have good practice at getting used to the situation. I STILL have a hard time coping with the awkwardness of sex for the first time with someone. Two nights ago I got this smoking hot girl in bed. It was a sure thing way before it even started, I knew there would be no resistance, I knew what was going to happen. . . But it was still awkward, it's hard to explain. Once I get going, it's no problem, but the initial buildup still gets me.

Having sex with a girl below your standards will actually help you with something. See, the fat girls know that you are a 8 or 9, while you know they are a 4 or 5; so naturally you are going to be the attractive one, and they will work for your affection, and you will treat them like you don't give a shit, which you don't. You should keep this mentality for when you are bagging 8s, 9s, and 10s. If you're a virgin at 26, then I think getting an 8,9, or 10 in bed could possibly be too much for you. Not that you shouldn't try, I just think you could accidentally blow it. You'll be less likely to blow it with the girl below your standards. You'll break your virginity cycle, you'll enjoy the sex, and so will she.

I do fuck people below my standards when I need to. I tell myself that I'm doing them a favor, I'm their reward (I actually am, truly, no game involved), so I think of it like a humanitarian thing. . . I'm giving a 4 or 5 the gift of having her fantasy of being with an 8/9 for a night.

As for the escort. . . Don't do it for your first time, man! I have had sex with prostitutes before, but it was totally out of novelty. It doesn't make me better, I'm just saying that prostitute sex is not the way to improve your mentality towards the subject. It could actually harm you. Fact is, they are there for the money, and they don't give a fuck about you, and you know it. I'll tell you what will kill it for you: When she first shows up, she is going to be somewhat friendly but not really. She's going to get her money. As soon as you give her the money, she is going to turn into the nicest girl in the world. She is going to call you "honey" and "sweetie" a lot. She is going to act for you. This is disheartening. The problem is that you know her affection is not real, so all social dynamics are so off, it's not even funny.

I've enjoyed sex with prostitutes, but for me I am able to accept the social dynamic because my brain is used to how it should be, so I know what is real and what is not. I will tell you, that I'm able to flag the fakeness of the initial interaction, and on two occasions I've changed her faked pleasure into knowing she's enjoying the sex so much, she's glad she came to fuck me. I considered one time that she should be paying me, because she was enjoying it more than me! I wouldn't have been able to identify that if I hadn't had sex with plenty of girls before hand.

So yeah man, stay away from the prostitutes. If you want to do it later for fun and novelty, I'm not judging. But you really gotta naturally get a girl into bed first. Even if you are "practicing" on a few fat girls, I would say do that so you can really get your mind right with the situations that pop up. These girls will leave you so in control it'll blow your mind, and I really think it'll improve your game with who you really want to be with.

Fuck the fat first.

Work on your attractiveness after.

Build experience with the fat, dude. And so on.

Later, you will thank the fat. Why ? Because with her, you will have earned experience... once you'll get to lay down a HB10.

Go !

I do have it! I workout 3-4 times a weeks and follow a meticulous diet.

@horologist "If you're a virgin at 26, then I think getting an 8,9, or 10 in bed could possibly be too much for you."

What do you mean by being too much for me?

After reading these replies I can certainly say I've crossed out the notion of getting an escort.. Wasn't real big on the idea personally but wanted to get outside opinions. There also seems to be a consensus that I should just get with a fat girl. I'll stay open to the idea but there MUST be a little attraction there. I will not force my self to have sex with anybody.. I work out four times a weeks, follow a strict diet and practice good hygiene.. Idk, maybe I'll catch a buzz before going on a date with a fat girl or something. At this point I honestly don't know what to do. All the fat girls I once had enamored with me have moved on due to my months of indifference...

I can't help but look back at my life and wonder, what happened? Here I am, almost 26 years old.. Nearly 30! And I have yet to experience love making. It's frustrating and puzzling! Financially I've been blessed. I've never had to worry about a budget or where my next meal was going to come from and I reflect on how fortunate I am everyday.. I still can't help but feel frustrated and upset though over never experiencing one of the best things life has to offer.

Do you actively go out and try to pick up girls?

Yea bro, you just gotta start approaching like a madman and get some experience points. How BAD do you want it? Your desire is strong, but are you willing to the put the effort into getting good at this? Definitely don't get an escort. Focus on developing your game, not the end result. Get better at each step in the game first. First focus on approaching and opening, then transitioning, then qualifying/breaking rapport, escalating, isolating, moving/bouncing, then pulling... It will all be worth it at the end, I promise.

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I would suggest to get the escort and get it out of the way.

But go to a brothel instead so you can't stick around for cuddles. Don't use it a a crutch.

Then, new hair cut , new clothes, learn game. meet ings, go get the pussy

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Hey buddy,

I hope you are doing alright! If you feel the need to do someone, pay and go brothel, don't do the fat one man!

They will not turn on you and it would be shitter experience than not having sex (happened to me), there is no shame to go brothel. It will definitely boost your confidence. My first time was at a brothel at age of 18 and never had any regrets.

Join a gym, byu nice clothes, have a good haircut and most importantly increase your chances to meet new chicks. GO OUT MORE!

If you are in Sydney, I am keen to meet up and we can go Sarge together.

Cheer up buddy!

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Hey guys, thanks so much for all the replies! I appreciate all the points of views and especailly the encouragement. I need all the help I can get. There's a few post I'd like to mention specifially in a bit. I'm in kind of an odd spot right now. Almost to the point where I don't even care anymore and am just focued on staying healthy and making money.. Deep down though I know I'm bothered. All the folks telling me to go to the gym, please stop. I already do go 3-4 times a week and I LOVE the way I look.. That's part of what gets me down. I KNOW I'm a good looking guy, I have clearly defined triceps, I'm vascular and have a solid three pack (sounds weird I know but it's just the way my abs look). I work hard to maintain my looks which is one of the reason I don't want a fat girl.

ezco2001- No... Sorta.. Not really. I go out and I try but 8/10 times approach anxiety gets to me and the other time she either has a boyfriend or gives me her number and drops off the face of the earth.

WillEdward- "Yea bro, you just gotta start approaching like a madman and get some experience points." Sound advice.. Your entire post was right on.. Just have to start overcoming the approach anxiety and bulster my motivation.
As for the brothel.. PEEBLES has a bold approach to it I sorta like but at the same time... It's illegal, it's dangeroufor multiple reasons, I'll NEVER see the girl again and I won't be earning it.. I'd be buying it... Would be nice knowing what it's like to make love to a beautiful woman though!

I'm glad that you feel good about yourself, it is important. What you need to do next is put yourself out there, out of the comfort zone and meet new people. Go out on the weekends, force yourself to talk to people and get comfortable about it. It will start to feel good when you get some success, keep up the attitude and be positive buddy!

Anytime bro, feel free to ask any more questions if you get stuck along the way. We're all here to help and there are plenty of useful resources. You'll definitely appreciate your girl, yourself and your life more once you have the skills to attract and seduce any beautiful women you want. And yes, you can do that.

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