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I am an aspiring independent filmmaker. That includes writing, directing, editing, cinematography, acting, editing, producing, and marketing- the whole shebang. More of an intellectual artsy guy complete with dick and fart jokes.
I usually wrote about what I know, which mostly focused on being the average teen, getting fucked up at parties, forming friendships; etc. And in the years I have been at it, I have written countless scripts, and filmed a few feature lengths. The majority was for school, but I tried to focus on getting them out to the general public, ultimately failing in the long run due to procrastination, fallouts, and various other things working against me.

Now my life:
I wasn't the most outgoing guy, but I wouldn't say I was a social outcast, rather socially awkward. I could hold conversations for a while, that usually deviated to some abstract idea that loses the other party's attention. I tried not to let that bother me, and continued to have as much fun as I could. Eventually I contracted the dreaded one-itis.
A friend of mine was getting married soon, dropping out of high school, and forming a new life for herself in Kansas (I'm a CA guy), so I tried to hold on to her as best I could. I talked to her husband and formed a bond with him as not only a mutual friend, but a friend within himself.
Usually we'd talk politics, sports, and religion- but one night the conversation progressed to the sex life. I clued him in on my social problems, including my infatuation with the girl that took my v card (who had then moved on tearing out my heart mercilessly, in the process). We had a long chat over a few beers during the wee hours of the night when he introduced me to a special book he owned: The Venusian Arts.
This opened an entire new world for me. He said this book alone changed his life, expanding his social circle and making his life better in the process. Since he found Brittany (the friend I spoke of before- and the only girl he hadn't run the game on), he had dropped the PUA lifestyle and focused on what truly mattered- their love.
I devoured the book in days and soon put theory into practice. I got rid of my one-itis, exploded my social circle, felt better about my surroundings, and become an altogether optimistic person. I was hungry for more, so I perused the internet looking for alternative advice. This is where I discovered many of the acclaimed "gurus" at the head of the seduction community.
As I always have, I researched the hell out of this thing- made a lifestyle out of it. I learned from the masters: Ross Jeffries, David DeAngelo, Mystery; etc. I was so blown away by this, that I confided in a close friend about my discovery.
I sent him the book immediately, in which he also ingested in days. Now I had a wing and confidant. We hit the town- malls, parties, social events and every other gathering.
Deciding that I needed some tangible evidence of the workings of my teen years, I came to the conclusion that I should write about what I know: AFCs blossoming into PUAs.

Now the set up:
So far- we have two sexually frustrated Seniors in high school, Scott and Duane, who are just trying to make the best of what they have. After being embarrassed in front of their whole school by an AMOG jock, they are discovered by Dom, who goes on to become their "personal lord and sexual savior."
Part autobiographical docudrama, part how-to, and a shitload of comedy- with that sentimental touch of poignancy... this film has the potential to open the eyes and educate the masses of AFC everywhere.

Let the game begin.


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If anybody has any interest in this project, I welcome opinions, thoughts, criticism, ideas and the occasional pipe bomb. It's still in the early writing stages, with the basic plotline down- but open for suggestion.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:47 pm 
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :D

If you really wanna help the community post and share tips and knowledge. dont help PU going even more mainstream!.


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I disagree with Gun -- in the end, all that hiding PUA is doing is making people lazy and much more apt to leech off of other peoples' routines. If you come up with your own shit, then the problem is solved. I think it's a great idea. I'll be adding you to AIM.


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I would have to agree with Blues, the only thing that it really hurts us in is if we use an exact line from the movie or in the case of The Pick Up Artist, from the TV show. Make up your own negs, make up your own routines, there are endless possibilities. I wouldn't want everyone in the community using the same 5 lines over and over in every set, that doesn't help. Innovation helps.

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I disagree with Gun -- in the end, all that hiding PUA is doing is making people lazy and much more apt to leech off of other peoples' routines. If you come up with your own shit, then the problem is solved. I think it's a great idea. I'll be adding you to AIM.
Yeah, thanks man.
And I agree with the individuality of game. We can't only use canned material, because its not learning- it's memorizing shit that other people said. You know you have reached your full potential when you find yourself picking up women without even thinking about technology or technique.

A problem I am having though is forming the persona of Dom (the PUG). I know I want him to have a confident swagger, quit witted, and always spouting philosophy... but I dont want him to come off like the AMOGs they are trying to defeat.

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I have a monologue- call/response drafted up for a confrontation between the two guys near the end. Message me at Dshiznit5435@sbcglobal.net if you want to hear.

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I think if you leave out the right details and have less "how to" and more
"open eyes" then there is no harm done. The problem that would arise from giving certain information away is when i go to a set with a genuine, self made opener and get blown out of the set because they know what it is.

If you used some canned material i see no issue, if you tell people that...hey this is an opener, this is what its used for, it could kill the whole thing.

I know Mystery did on his show, the difference between a TV show geared heavily to guys and a movie that could have a much wider audience...is that women are more likely to see the movie version of anything :P

Just my opinion guys, i like your ideas artisticlly speaking, however i think itd be another layer on exposeing the PUA community.

Its basically the same as someone telling people your a PUA, your game no matter how tight may not work after that.

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I agree with Ka on this one. Go up to a group of HB's run your game (even if it is original) and they might clue into the steps especially if everyone is running with the MM. Its not not what you're saying at that point, its how everything is falling in line. Women start to see this pattern and i think some may get blown out of the water.

The Idea I like, but you gotta be careful.

Check out the movie Roger Doger. Its about a highschool kid seeing his ladies man Uncle in NY and learning how to pickup girls (two thumbs up by Ebert and Ropert). He didn't use any of the lingo (i don't think he knew about it, but his steps are similar. I think if you're gung ho for this, run along these lines where you're leaving out the things that could get people blown out of the water and leaving in what is important for the movie to function.


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DLing Roger Dodger right now.


Update:
Sample of Dom's (the PUG) introductory monologue:

"Okay, kids, listen up. This is your first and final warning- after this, we're gonna jump right into the great big wide world of attraction and seduction. Within my head is the cumulative research, information, experience, advice and rules that have been carved into an exact science over thirty plus years by the leaders and forerunners in the PUA community. This information can be beneficial, easy, fun and an altogether great experience... or it could be inherently manipulative, insidious, destructive and negatively influential- but no matter which way you go, it will truly be life changing and revolutional to your social status, environmental perception, and, of course, your love life. Proceed with caution though, because there is no off button on what you learn. Theres no "reset" that'll take you back to the thought patterns and social analysis you held before. Once you buckle up onto this wild ride, you'll never feel the same again.

So if you want me to guide you on your first trip through the land of the Game, you have to guarantee me this- you agree to accept all I speak as divinity, to challenge yourself and eachother, to experience new things, open your mind, free your sould, and capture the essence of life under my wing, with me as your only leader and guru, to have and to hold, in sickness and in health, forever and ever amen?

(Uhhh... yeah)

Good. Now... as your personal lord and sexual savior, I think we need to establish the guidlines. And whats a better way to teach you than immerse you in the field itself?

C'mon.. we're going."

I'd say he has a Dr. House type cockiness.

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I don't care for 'personal lord and sexual savior'. It turns me off, and is probably a tad offensive to religious types.

P.S. I don't consider myself overly-religious


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just remember everything is relative. we are more charming because we know more than the average male(let alone the average afc) but if "the community" goes public any more there will be problems. I can't complain because truthfully I fount out about all of this while looking to watch the pua show via internet so by all means I'm the perfect example. But if you havent noticed there are a lot of assbags and stupid bitches joining just to say how dumb the PU arts are. we can only go so far before we destroy ourselves. Regardless of old routines if women realize men are actually thinking of way to pick them up(I really can't imagine what they actually think) dozens of new walls will come up.walls that are'nt so easily broken down because they're expecting to be broken down.

edit: if nothing else try not to mention the community or the acronyms or names of people and call it a fiction

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After seeing the feedback from the community, I seem to have been forced to put more of a cinematic spin on it. Less "how-to" and more "Hollywood", unfortunately.
I wanted to keep the actual quality, the true emotions and events I went through discovering the reality of of the PUA community, my coming of age, if you will. Dom was to be the way I perceived I would be when I completed my transformation. Duane and Scott would be how I and my friend were when we first started. And this film would chronicle my discovery, awakening, and the paradigm shift of social interactions.
But there's still time...
In fact, at this moment, I have about 40% of the script finished.



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Update:

Another sample from the script, after Dom has a fallout with Duane. Duane confronts Scott about what they have been doing.

"No. What we did was take some KIDDIE FANTASY and attempt to spin it into some reality, into our obsession. We blew it into some grandiose lifestyle that swallowed us whole the moment we acquiesced and relied on the advice of your run of the mill player.

By accepting Dom's advice- really, we gave up. We gave in and chose to announce, through our actions, that we needed him, that we were average losers- AFCs - that could never seem to get anywhere socially. Always getting smashed down by AMOGs, getting LJBFd and SPAM, always letting our AA take hold of us and push us into the lonely corner of desperation.

Don't you realize why we ran to the "Almighty" Dom? We found security when he created the idea that the core purpose of our goddamned existence revolved around gaining the acceptance of men and the... the... the LUST of women.

What have we done? We have allowed this mindset to permeate our thoughts, hypnotizing us and engulfing our being, our nature. Everything we've done sonce we met him was because he said so. Do you really think I wanted to jump through all those hoops he'd thrown at us? Seriously, what did walking through the mall in a gorilla suit do for me? Nothing. These little games, these tests and dares, they were only for his entertainment.

He was toying with us. He was the puppeteer. And now don't you realize? Don't you see? We gave him power.

This wasn't to get laid. This wasn't to improve our social status or gain a grain of confidence. All of this, these last three months, they were nothing more than a struggle to achieve the macho delusion of alpha masculinity. We enviously eyed all those born naturals soaking up attention and obtaining the women we longed for. We thirsted to be in their shoes, to taste their power. This envy festered inside us for years, and we wanted freedom from it.

Y'know, we fell into this because... well, we ultimately wanted to become what we hated to escape from what we hated being."


Scott's response coming next.

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Scott looks at Duane, trying to read him, a confused look on his face.

"Look at you. Fucking LOOK AT YOU. So holier than thou and enlightened. Trying to blatantly dismiss every-fucking-thing Dom gave us, when you yourself were spewing out the very terms he taught you.

Tell me- where would you be? Where would you be without Dom? Without these last few months? I'll tell you. You'd be in your room, alone, playing video games. You'd still have the same pessimistic worldview that you always have had, always thinking worst case scenario, always pussying out in REAL LIFE.

What, do you think we get second chances when you don't even take your first chance? How can you take advantage of an opportunity if you're always living in the past and future- but never the present? You needed to stop psyching yourself out, man. And Dom taught you that, in life, you can win. He taught the both of us that as long as we knew the rules, this game can be fun.

So you think this hasn't helped you? Then tell me this. Tell me your perspective on every social gathering, every beautiful woman, every prospective partner hasn't changed. Tell me, Duane, since you think he's using us, why did you stick with him the entire time? At any point you could have called bullshit on his tests, his games, his theories. But you didn't. You stayed, you listened, you accepted him as your guru.

I never saw a frown on your face- especially when you realized the power you had achieved over yourself. You were happy, for once. You weren't abjectly looking into your future like a sexless black abyss.

How many more friends have you made? How big has your social circle grown? You have money, happiness, health and success. You are a whole new person. A better person. Not deprived, not depraved.

So don't try to get on a high horse and throw some moral spin onto what we have been doing. Is that what you're complaining about? Your sanctity? What you are? Well what you are is what you've always been, Dom just helped you shed your loser skin."

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[quote="rant"]After seeing the feedback from the community, I seem to have been forced to put more of a cinematic spin on it. Less "how-to" and more "Hollywood", unfortunately.
I wanted to keep the actual quality, the true emotions and events I went through discovering the reality of of the PUA community, my coming of age, if you will. Dom was to be the way I perceived I would be when I completed my transformation. Duane and Scott would be how I and my friend were when we first started. And this film would chronicle my discovery, awakening, and the paradigm shift of social interactions.
But there's still time...
In fact, at this moment, I have about 40% of the script finished.



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no i think the how to part is great just .......make sure its unrealistic lol

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I'm working on some dialogue right now.
Update as soon as I get done with it.

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Wow, I've realized I never got anything posted.
Sarging must've taken up too much of my time.

I'll get some update up ASAP.

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