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OK now we're getting somewhere. First off, I haven't insulted you AT ALL, or used shaming language. But we can agree to disagree on that for the time being.

You have said exactly what my 35 year old friend said to me the other day when I asked him what he wanted. A nice girl to settle down with.

Down points for him: He however isn't the best looking guy, is overweight, half-asian (in a latin country) and not rolling in money (to address your concerns).

Up points: sociable as hell, good background, smart, family company on the up.

His only sex is though prostitutes as well. He has had one GF, and that ended about 12 years ago. I do not consider that a fulfilling sentimental life.

I wanted to help him so I started taking him out in the field, sending him reading material, and trying to help him begin to understand women (he has a lot of women friends who just leech him because he's just too nice and dumb.

But guess what happened?

Instead of reading what I sent (I also went to his house for one-on-one classes), and working his inner game, getting nice clothes (I offered to help out in the looks department).... He just kept watching TV, going out with the same stupid girl-friends who do NOTHING for him, and basically has not wanted to WORK AT ALL at becoming a better person for some woman to fall for. He has NO IDEA what to do in order to get women, but will also refuse to game or practice with me yesterday when out at a club.

I used the analogy of the overweight guy who wondered why he didn't lose weight while he continued to be a couch potato and eat pringles. You have to WORK for things you want in your life. This DOES NOT include closing yourself off and ignoring sound advice.

In any case my friend, you sound a lot like him. I am 38 divorced with a kid, and can still get 21 year olds contrary to all logic living in a very conservative country. Thanks to confidence and listening to advice and practicing like hell. I also crash and burn, but you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.

If you continue the prostitute way, good for you. I know a few pros as friends (never used their services) and some are nice and fun girls. But it's work for them, therefore I could consider sex with prostitutes like jacking off, because you have not established a human connection that stuck enough for you to have a sexual relationship without money. They might help you take your mind off your problem... though that is not what you should be seeking IMHO.

Too many similarities with my friend man.... There are people with your mindset all around the world.. You are setting your own limits. You are not going to get what you want putting down ANYTHING (including PU). As I said, you weren't always 45 or bald. You've been doing the same wrong thing for decades, but don't wanna figure out what it is.
More insults, if you had bothered to read my other posts, you would know that I have tried all different types of methods and nothing worked, so I resent your assertion that I have been doing exacttly same thing because I haven't.

The only reason you are good with women is because of your looks, don't claim that it was PUA or any other of that pop-psychology.

And of course prostitues only do for it the money and it's only work for them, Captian Fucking Obvious, don't you think I know that? I don't go to hookers to find my wife, I am not stupid.

I went bald at 23, and I thought you PUAs said it's not about looks???

Just because you "tried" methods does not mean you employed them properly. You can try at something a million times but if you do it wrong each time you will still fail. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
This is the problem with you PUAs, it's always the mans fault if the woman rejects him, which just proves what a bunch of manginas, female bad behaviour apologists you guys really are.

When I have approached women, I have always done so as gentlemen and in good faith, if the woman saids no to me, or gives me bad body language what the fuck can I do about that?, when a woman saids NO, she means FUCKING no. If you don't know what the word no means I suggest you consult a dictionary and look under the word N, it won't be hard to find.


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Bullshit!, a close friend of mine paid $3,000.00 USD for some PUA bootcamp, and neither he or any of the students in his PUA class got any results.

The problem with you PUAs is that you think PU is some mathematical/scientific formula that men need to follow in order to attract women, and if they don't follow this formula then it's all their fault.

Do I have faults as a person?, of course I do, every human does, but what I can do when I approach a woman and she tells me to fuck off even before I open my mouth??
If you think it's some robotic process, you are very, very wrong. PU is about is maximizing what you have and learning the "rules" of the "game". As with any industry there are phonies and there are those who will tell it to you like it is. Just because your friend was duped by someone does not mean an entire industry is a fraud. I am sorry your friend got suckered in. We arent telling you that you are at fault for not following some "formula", we are telling you that you are at fault for your overall negative attitude that any woman can sense from a mile away. Who wants to be friends with a buzzkill let alone have sex/ a relationship with one?[/quote]


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Do I have faults as a person?, of course I do, every human does, but what I can do when I approach a woman and she tells me to fuck off even before I open my mouth??
um, you keep talking until you get her attention...
And what if she keeps ignoring me?


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This is the problem with you PUAs, it's always the mans fault if the woman rejects him, which just proves what a bunch of manginas, female bad behaviour apologists you guys really are.

When I have approached women, I have always done so as gentlemen and in good faith, if the woman saids no to me, or gives me bad body language what the fuck can I do about that?, when a woman saids NO, she means FUCKING no. If you don't know what the word no means I suggest you consult a dictionary and look under the word N, it won't be hard to find.
We are not apologists for anyone. We are not saying your are going to get every girl, some women will dislike you for no reason at all. You are claiming ZERO success however. We are telling you that if you have NO results at all that you need to stop blaming external factors and start looking at what YOU may be doing wrong.

Also, no does not mean no. Not always anyway. You don't seem to understand the difference between resistance and true disinterest. Like Daniel Tosh once said, if no always meant no, every man would die a virgin.


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Do I have faults as a person?, of course I do, every human does, but what I can do when I approach a woman and she tells me to fuck off even before I open my mouth??
um, you keep talking until you get her attention...
And what if she keeps ignoring me?
You get her attention. You certainly do not quit.


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Bullshit!, a close friend of mine paid $3,000.00 USD for some PUA bootcamp, and neither he or any of the students in his PUA class got any results.

The problem with you PUAs is that you think PU is some mathematical/scientific formula that men need to follow in order to attract women, and if they don't follow this formula then it's all their fault.

Do I have faults as a person?, of course I do, every human does, but what I can do when I approach a woman and she tells me to fuck off even before I open my mouth??
If you think it's some robotic process, you are very, very wrong. PU is about is maximizing what you have and learning the "rules" of the "game". As with any industry there are phonies and there are those who will tell it to you like it is. Just because your friend was duped by someone does not mean an entire industry is a fraud. I am sorry your friend got suckered in. We arent telling you that you are at fault for not following some "formula", we are telling you that you are at fault for your overall negative attitude that any woman can sense from a mile away. Who wants to be friends with a buzzkill let alone have sex/ a relationship with one?
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Negative attitude and women can sense this??, are you fucking kidding me?, if anything it's women who have behaved more negatively to me than me towards them, for example in July of 1999 I went on this blind date with this Irish woman, and for the miserable 90 minutes I wasted with this bitch, all she could do is whine about her alcoholic ex husband, inspite of the fact that I was trying to change the subject and be upbeat and positive. And this has happened on several occasions when I have approached women, I tried to be fun and cheery, and they acted like they have been told they have 6 months to live.

When I talk to women I talk to them in a cheery happy manner, so please don't accuse me of having a negative attitude.


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Bullshit!, a close friend of mine paid $3,000.00 USD for some PUA bootcamp, and neither he or any of the students in his PUA class got any results.

The problem with you PUAs is that you think PU is some mathematical/scientific formula that men need to follow in order to attract women, and if they don't follow this formula then it's all their fault.

Do I have faults as a person?, of course I do, every human does, but what I can do when I approach a woman and she tells me to fuck off even before I open my mouth??
If you think it's some robotic process, you are very, very wrong. PU is about is maximizing what you have and learning the "rules" of the "game". As with any industry there are phonies and there are those who will tell it to you like it is. Just because your friend was duped by someone does not mean an entire industry is a fraud. I am sorry your friend got suckered in. We arent telling you that you are at fault for not following some "formula", we are telling you that you are at fault for your overall negative attitude that any woman can sense from a mile away. Who wants to be friends with a buzzkill let alone have sex/ a relationship with one?
Negative attitude and women can sense this??, are you fucking kidding me?, if anything it's women who have behaved more negatively to me than me towards them, for example in July of 1999 I went on this blind date with this Irish woman, and for the miserable 90 minutes I wasted with this bitch, all she could do is whine about her alcoholic ex husband, inspite of the fact that I was trying to change the subject and be upbeat and positive. And this has happened on several occasions when I have approached women, I tried to be fun and cheery, and they acted like they have been told they have 6 months to live.

When I talk to women I talk to them in a cheery happy manner, so please don't accuse me of having a negative attitude.
I sense that you may come off as try hard when you have this "cheery" attitude. You don't feel you do but women are much more socially intuitive than you seem to think. That's a fact. You seem to love those. Great, you had a shitty date. I have had them before also. Am I bitter towards women for it? No. She was just a bitch. So what? You are citing something that happened 13 years ago.

Just because a woman is a bitch to initially doesnt mean she isn't interested. Women shit test. You obviously seem to fail them every time.


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The force of weakness is strong in this one it is... :)


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Son, unless you change your weak mentality you need to change your screen name. Master Yoda don't think like you think. You are adulterating the charater son...


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Out of a matter of principle. You need to go talk to the hottest girl you know. You need to ask her out. Then promise her it will be the best date she will ever go on in her life. You need to do this.


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If you think it's some robotic process, you are very, very wrong. PU is about is maximizing what you have and learning the "rules" of the "game". As with any industry there are phonies and there are those who will tell it to you like it is. Just because your friend was duped by someone does not mean an entire industry is a fraud. I am sorry your friend got suckered in. We arent telling you that you are at fault for not following some "formula", we are telling you that you are at fault for your overall negative attitude that any woman can sense from a mile away. Who wants to be friends with a buzzkill let alone have sex/ a relationship with one?
Negative attitude and women can sense this??, are you fucking kidding me?, if anything it's women who have behaved more negatively to me than me towards them, for example in July of 1999 I went on this blind date with this Irish woman, and for the miserable 90 minutes I wasted with this bitch, all she could do is whine about her alcoholic ex husband, inspite of the fact that I was trying to change the subject and be upbeat and positive. And this has happened on several occasions when I have approached women, I tried to be fun and cheery, and they acted like they have been told they have 6 months to live.

When I talk to women I talk to them in a cheery happy manner, so please don't accuse me of having a negative attitude.
I sense that you may come off as try hard when you have this "cheery" attitude. You don't feel you do but women are much more socially intuitive than you seem to think. That's a fact. You seem to love those. Great, you had a shitty date. I have had them before also. Am I bitter towards women for it? No. She was just a bitch. So what? You are citing something that happened 13 years ago.

Just because a woman is a bitch to initially doesnt mean she isn't interested. Women shit test. You obviously seem to fail them every time.
Shit test?, more PUA rubbish, women don't shit test men they like, so don't pull that one on me.

I am a try hard?, no I just act myself and I don't put on a performance like you PUAs do.

This "woman's intuition" is the biggest load of BS, because if women supposedly have these "magical powers", then why do so many women end up getting cheated on, or physically assaulted by their partners?, and why is the divorce rate so high. I am sorry but this whole women's intuition is just used an excuse to rationalise bad relationship choices by women.


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Out of a matter of principle. You need to go talk to the hottest girl you know. You need to ask her out. Then promise her it will be the best date she will ever go on in her life. You need to do this.
And as if a hot looking woman is going to date me?

You are funny mate, you should consider a career in stand up comedy.


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Shit test?, more PUA rubbish, women don't shit test men they like, so don't pull that one on me.
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What world do you live in??????

Everyone pushes your boundaries, even your family.


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Out of a matter of principle. You need to go talk to the hottest girl you know. You need to ask her out. Then promise her it will be the best date she will ever go on in her life. You need to do this.
And as if a hot looking woman is going to date me?

You are funny mate, you should consider a career in stand up comedy.
Jokes on you if you believe that.


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You don't have the heart to get a hot girl. You don't have the heart.

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