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My post on why race/age/looks matter would discredit the entirety of this useless fucking post. But in reality, please realize you have a bleak fucking view on life and it's sad to see someone in their 40s resigned to dying alone and having such weak inner game/bitching evangelically about the myth of pickup.

It's clear your nature vs nurture experiences has subjugated you into believing the guys with the GOOD looks are the ones who get the girl and game does not matter. The reality is this: looks do matter but truly not as much as you think it does and definitely not as much for every girl or in the same way. The reality is I believe there's a baseline level of pass ability to be in the dating scene. If you are a burn victim, fat 400 lbs man, or a 2 ft midget, then you won't have any problem in the dating world.

The fact is some of my friends are aspiring actors, models, actual celebrities, and guys who resemble a good looking male. In general, yes they have it easier but realistically looks are very subjective...i know some girls that truly think brad Pitt is ugly. What would you say to that? Probably bullshit, but ur dead set on a conviction of limiting belief that has destroyed you.

We don't ban people here, but we can pity them. Hopefully you realize I have just seen too many examples of men that get with high caliber women (note I'm one of them) without money, cars, looks, etc. Obviously I have baseline values of money to sustain myself, clothing, decent haircut and the looks are decent but I'm not going to be high ego and say just because I'm a model I'm a fucking creme de la creme. P.s. fame only opens sets and yes it can help you fuck any girl you wanted but don't be a retard and think there aren't women who may not be with a wife beater celebrity or any celebrity and look no farther than an actual personality. Some do, some don't. You are categorizing all women.

Get real OP. Seek fucking help than trying to blame pick up for your lack of wisdom, Yoda....please. Don't insult that green midget

For your information, I am not a burn victim, a 2ft midget and I definitely don't weigh 400lbs, I am 5'7 tall, weigh around 74kg (163lbs), and I go the gym 6 days a week, plus I play soccer, so I am better shape than most men my age who are usually very overweight or obese. However I am bald (I shave my head), and although I am an Italian Australian, I mistaken for an Arab, and I know for a fact women despise Arab looking men.

If you are a model, then why did you turn to the PUA community/industry?, your looks alone would guarantee you success with women.

I find extremely hard to believe that any woman would find Brad Pitt ugly given how ultra picky modern women are these days.

What exactly is this "inner game"?, and perhaps I do have a bleak view of the world but that's because I have approached women only to be greeted with "instant fuck off signals", dirty looks and the silent SPAM. And before you accuse me of being too picky, I rarely if ever approach hot looking women, as they are completely out of my league, in the past I have only approached average to moderately attractive women.

I have experimented with some PUA material, but I would never waste my money on any of those ridiculous boot camps, and what I discovered is that at best PUA material may make women slightly intrigued by you, but not attracted, there is a difference.

How did I "fail" at pick up, when the dating game is systematically rigged against ugly dudes like me?
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Omar Sharif.

(names not words, i know. and he's egyptian too but didnt he play an arab in lawrence of arabia? women loved that guy.)


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My post on why race/age/looks matter would discredit the entirety of this useless fucking post. But in reality, please realize you have a bleak fucking view on life and it's sad to see someone in their 40s resigned to dying alone and having such weak inner game/bitching evangelically about the myth of pickup.

It's clear your nature vs nurture experiences has subjugated you into believing the guys with the GOOD looks are the ones who get the girl and game does not matter. The reality is this: looks do matter but truly not as much as you think it does and definitely not as much for every girl or in the same way. The reality is I believe there's a baseline level of pass ability to be in the dating scene. If you are a burn victim, fat 400 lbs man, or a 2 ft midget, then you won't have any problem in the dating world.

The fact is some of my friends are aspiring actors, models, actual celebrities, and guys who resemble a good looking male. In general, yes they have it easier but realistically looks are very subjective...i know some girls that truly think brad Pitt is ugly. What would you say to that? Probably bullshit, but ur dead set on a conviction of limiting belief that has destroyed you.

We don't ban people here, but we can pity them. Hopefully you realize I have just seen too many examples of men that get with high caliber women (note I'm one of them) without money, cars, looks, etc. Obviously I have baseline values of money to sustain myself, clothing, decent haircut and the looks are decent but I'm not going to be high ego and say just because I'm a model I'm a fucking creme de la creme. P.s. fame only opens sets and yes it can help you fuck any girl you wanted but don't be a retard and think there aren't women who may not be with a wife beater celebrity or any celebrity and look no farther than an actual personality. Some do, some don't. You are categorizing all women.

Get real OP. Seek fucking help than trying to blame pick up for your lack of wisdom, Yoda....please. Don't insult that green midget

For your information, I am not a burn victim, a 2ft midget and I definitely don't weigh 400lbs, I am 5'7 tall, weigh around 74kg (163lbs), and I go the gym 6 days a week, plus I play soccer, so I am better shape than most men my age who are usually very overweight or obese. However I am bald (I shave my head), and although I am an Italian Australian, I mistaken for an Arab, and I know for a fact women despise Arab looking men.

If you are a model, then why did you turn to the PUA community/industry?, your looks alone would guarantee you success with women.

I find extremely hard to believe that any woman would find Brad Pitt ugly given how ultra picky modern women are these days.

What exactly is this "inner game"?, and perhaps I do have a bleak view of the world but that's because I have approached women only to be greeted with "instant fuck off signals", dirty looks and the silent SPAM. And before you accuse me of being too picky, I rarely if ever approach hot looking women, as they are completely out of my league, in the past I have only approached average to moderately attractive women.

I have experimented with some PUA material, but I would never waste my money on any of those ridiculous boot camps, and what I discovered is that at best PUA material may make women slightly intrigued by you, but not attracted, there is a difference.

How did I "fail" at pick up, when the dating game is systematically rigged against ugly dudes like me?
there are too many inaccuracies in this post to respond to.
Care to elaborate and qualify your views?


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My post on why race/age/looks matter would discredit the entirety of this useless fucking post. But in reality, please realize you have a bleak fucking view on life and it's sad to see someone in their 40s resigned to dying alone and having such weak inner game/bitching evangelically about the myth of pickup.

It's clear your nature vs nurture experiences has subjugated you into believing the guys with the GOOD looks are the ones who get the girl and game does not matter. The reality is this: looks do matter but truly not as much as you think it does and definitely not as much for every girl or in the same way. The reality is I believe there's a baseline level of pass ability to be in the dating scene. If you are a burn victim, fat 400 lbs man, or a 2 ft midget, then you won't have any problem in the dating world.

The fact is some of my friends are aspiring actors, models, actual celebrities, and guys who resemble a good looking male. In general, yes they have it easier but realistically looks are very subjective...i know some girls that truly think brad Pitt is ugly. What would you say to that? Probably bullshit, but ur dead set on a conviction of limiting belief that has destroyed you.

We don't ban people here, but we can pity them. Hopefully you realize I have just seen too many examples of men that get with high caliber women (note I'm one of them) without money, cars, looks, etc. Obviously I have baseline values of money to sustain myself, clothing, decent haircut and the looks are decent but I'm not going to be high ego and say just because I'm a model I'm a fucking creme de la creme. P.s. fame only opens sets and yes it can help you fuck any girl you wanted but don't be a retard and think there aren't women who may not be with a wife beater celebrity or any celebrity and look no farther than an actual personality. Some do, some don't. You are categorizing all women.

Get real OP. Seek fucking help than trying to blame pick up for your lack of wisdom, Yoda....please. Don't insult that green midget

For your information, I am not a burn victim, a 2ft midget and I definitely don't weigh 400lbs, I am 5'7 tall, weigh around 74kg (163lbs), and I go the gym 6 days a week, plus I play soccer, so I am better shape than most men my age who are usually very overweight or obese. However I am bald (I shave my head), and although I am an Italian Australian, I mistaken for an Arab, and I know for a fact women despise Arab looking men.

If you are a model, then why did you turn to the PUA community/industry?, your looks alone would guarantee you success with women.

I find extremely hard to believe that any woman would find Brad Pitt ugly given how ultra picky modern women are these days.

What exactly is this "inner game"?, and perhaps I do have a bleak view of the world but that's because I have approached women only to be greeted with "instant fuck off signals", dirty looks and the silent SPAM. And before you accuse me of being too picky, I rarely if ever approach hot looking women, as they are completely out of my league, in the past I have only approached average to moderately attractive women.

I have experimented with some PUA material, but I would never waste my money on any of those ridiculous boot camps, and what I discovered is that at best PUA material may make women slightly intrigued by you, but not attracted, there is a difference.

How did I "fail" at pick up, when the dating game is systematically rigged against ugly dudes like me?
there are too many inaccuracies in this post to respond to.
Inner game is just a way of making due with what you have. Not everybody can be a Brad Pitt, but most of us can learn how to talk to women, and get dates.

But The only real test if PUA's reallt get more women than the average Joe is to see them doing it. Most of it here and abraod, you have to go on blind faith that they are what they say.


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For your information, I am not a burn victim, a 2ft midget and I definitely don't weigh 400lbs, I am 5'7 tall, weigh around 74kg (163lbs), and I go the gym 6 days a week, plus I play soccer, so I am better shape than most men my age who are usually very overweight or obese. However I am bald (I shave my head), and although I am an Italian Australian, I mistaken for an Arab, and I know for a fact women despise Arab looking men.

If you are a model, then why did you turn to the PUA community/industry?, your looks alone would guarantee you success with women.

I find extremely hard to believe that any woman would find Brad Pitt ugly given how ultra picky modern women are these days.

What exactly is this "inner game"?, and perhaps I do have a bleak view of the world but that's because I have approached women only to be greeted with "instant fuck off signals", dirty looks and the silent SPAM. And before you accuse me of being too picky, I rarely if ever approach hot looking women, as they are completely out of my league, in the past I have only approached average to moderately attractive women.

I have experimented with some PUA material, but I would never waste my money on any of those ridiculous boot camps, and what I discovered is that at best PUA material may make women slightly intrigued by you, but not attracted, there is a difference.

How did I "fail" at pick up, when the dating game is systematically rigged against ugly dudes like me?
there are too many inaccuracies in this post to respond to.
Care to elaborate and qualify your views?
i said Omar Shariff.


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In all due respect to all, saying you have been with women who wanted you just cause you are you, and didnt have looks money or anything else, is one thing, being it is another.

I get tired of internet playas making claims.

Obviously having game helps, just as looks and money, but it's not all there is.

Sometimes people just connect for unknown reasons


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I know for a fact women despise Arab looking men.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

dude european women love arab cock. not to mention middle eastern bitches
I am from Australia, not Europe, and maybe European women don't mind Arab looking men, but here in Australia, Arab men are hated by women, and I am not an Arab, I am Australian born and raised of Italian parents, but I look Middle Eastern.
move to europe


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Unless you look like osama bin laden as an arabic man, why the fuck are you saying all women hate arabs? Personally I know some middle eastern women that hate arabs and they themselves look arab.

Dude, it just depends on the girl. You sitting here choding out logic arguing with us. Yes. I am a model. The secret is out. You got me. That's my pick-up mani-fucking-festo.

BECOME A MODEL, tell the girl, you're IN.


No motherfucker. Some girls are just like "oh whatever" and 99.9% of the time I don't tell them I'm a model. Can they assume whatever they want sure, but it does not get me the women. By your logic, I should be closing all the women I talk to. You ask me why I needed pick up? Simple, fucking choice. I was a handsome looking shy ass retard who used to be bossed around by the hottest girls in my high school to the point one girl openly threatened "Why am I even with you? You know I should fuck Kenny....i bet he has a bigger dick than you. You think you look so good well fuck you. ur nothing without me." THIS motherfucker is what motivated me every fucking day. I didn't sit there crying about a girl called Chelsea who was the meanest harshest bitch on the planet.

You say you're in Australia and you can't get ANY women to like you? You're actually telling me, every woman is telling you "please fuck off"? Motherfucker some women obviously say FUCK OFF. LOOK AT my other thread. It happens.

There is something you are not telling us. If you got a beard like a terrorist, then fucking do something about it. Me personally, sometimes I have a beard and I do not give a FUCKKKKKK what the girl thinks. I don't go home crying "but I look middle eastern WAHH"

If not, then what the fuck are you trying to tell us? You are the first man in the world every woman hates...EVERY SINGLE WOMAN? You know I was told I look like the dude from WHITE CASTLE. Know what I said? Want to come back to my place and have some? I f-closed that girl that very night, Caucasian brunette with 36C breasts and a ass that was rock solid.

You met all the women in the world? FYI I look turkish so its part middle eastern and I'm also part Italian, so to hear you say shit like "I look middle eastern (and ur not even middle eastern)" is fucking hilarious.

I know so many countless examples of dudes that are laying girls you'd be jacking off to. And newsflash, 8 of my girlfriends/lovers have been from Newcastle, Melbourne, and Sydney in Australia (2 when I was actually in Australia for 2 months). Last I checked, they didn't tell me to fuck off.

Seek help and stop insulting that green little midget Yoda. I think you are categorizing all women and I'm going to severely fucking doubt you approach any women at all...this much you made clear. I mean you're 40 and only had 200 approaches? I do that much in 2 weeks. Stop categorizing average women to be "Easier" than "hotter women" This is the problem. You lack the core fundamentals of pick up and sorry to say it, you are hellbent on refusing them because you deep down think 'I'm fucking 40...I cant change now...I might as well be alone FOREVER." You have a VICTIM mentality mindset and worse off a women-generalizing mindset based on your experiences for which you cant be blamed. Your brain has taken the experiences you had (mostly bad) and has rationalized it to yourself being the problem rather than the women. Yet again, I don't blame you. You're only human.

But....You don't EVEN want to change. Admit this aspect about yourself. Admit it. Fucking admit it if you are the truth seeker of your own life.


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Looks

Being good looking Vs Being attractive:
Women are not that visual as men are, but as much as the community disagrees everything counts including looks, with that being said if you look good and that is all you have after 10 seconds women need more than that, you can get away with not having looks by having confidence, dance moves, and by having a tight game these qualities will make you attractive, I am sure you have seen ugly guys(me) with beautiful woman, or very good looking guys that lose the woman to an ugly guy(me again). With that being said, first impressions are important, and the better you look the more and better quality girl you may pick up, or you may need less effort to game her and less rejection and a good scenario women come up to you (happens to me all the time). I am not that good looking but I am super attractive, I got sex appeal, confidence, game and dance moves. Also, for my type of game you have to be in clubs sometimes for 5 hours sometimes 2 to 3 times a week and there is a lot of walking, so you need to be in optimal shape.
Things that can make a dude attractive:
Dance moves: Being able to dance
Confidence: Being sure of yourself, know what you want, and being decisive. They hate and lose attraction for a needy dude that is possessive and jealous.
Witt: Women like guys that are smart and know about different subjects, not to be confused with a nerdy dude.
Humor: Women like a guy that can make her laugh, laughter changes women emotions, to be funny you have to be smart. Disclaimer: Do not be a 24 hour clown.
Leadership: Women want to be lead, and they like a man that can lead other man.
Power: Women are naturally drawn to security (financial, physical protection etc…)
Ambitious: If you do not have money but you have goals and ambition, it is the equivalent in women mind to a dude that has the money. I been able to substitute not having money, with my drive, goal and ambition.
Manly man: Women want a man, that is not a PUSSY, a man that has self-respect and when they test them and throw tantrums and act up, will be no reactive come and collective.
Hygiene: A clean guy that smells nice.
Takes care of himself: Women like a man that takes care of his body mind and spirit.
Muscles: A dude that works out, eat right. Muscles are the easiest way to become attractive fast.
Stylish: Women like a guy that can dress up and is stylish.
Unpredictable and fun: Women like men that are unpredictable(even if it frustrates them) and that when they are around the dude, is always a good time.
Sexual competence: An unapologetic sexual dude, that will let her wanting him again and again after sex.
Blunt: women want an honest dude that will tell it like it is, instead of sugar coding stuff.
Self-amusement: Women like a dude that has fun with himself and those crazy shit for his own entertainment and does not give a fuck what everybody else things including her. He is awesome and brings her and her emotions to his awesomeness.
Game: knowing what to do and how to act with woman and people in different situations




By your opening post, i can read the type of dude you are, you are a very insecured, blame everybody else is not me, that is very unnatractive quality, believe me, your problem is not your looks is your attitude, but the way the puahate forum is where you need to be[/b]

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Well said my friend! And honestly I think you only need 2-3 of these qualities to increase your attractiveness immensely! I try to keep myself in a good state with most of the “attractive qualities” you list, sometimes I fail in certain areas and have to pick myself up and hopefully learn from it. Quality!

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My post on why race/age/looks matter would discredit the entirety of this useless fucking post. But in reality, please realize you have a bleak fucking view on life and it's sad to see someone in their 40s resigned to dying alone and having such weak inner game/bitching evangelically about the myth of pickup.

It's clear your nature vs nurture experiences has subjugated you into believing the guys with the GOOD looks are the ones who get the girl and game does not matter. The reality is this: looks do matter but truly not as much as you think it does and definitely not as much for every girl or in the same way. The reality is I believe there's a baseline level of pass ability to be in the dating scene. If you are a burn victim, fat 400 lbs man, or a 2 ft midget, then you won't have any problem in the dating world.

The fact is some of my friends are aspiring actors, models, actual celebrities, and guys who resemble a good looking male. In general, yes they have it easier but realistically looks are very subjective...i know some girls that truly think brad Pitt is ugly. What would you say to that? Probably bullshit, but ur dead set on a conviction of limiting belief that has destroyed you.

We don't ban people here, but we can pity them. Hopefully you realize I have just seen too many examples of men that get with high caliber women (note I'm one of them) without money, cars, looks, etc. Obviously I have baseline values of money to sustain myself, clothing, decent haircut and the looks are decent but I'm not going to be high ego and say just because I'm a model I'm a fucking creme de la creme. P.s. fame only opens sets and yes it can help you fuck any girl you wanted but don't be a retard and think there aren't women who may not be with a wife beater celebrity or any celebrity and look no farther than an actual personality. Some do, some don't. You are categorizing all women.

Get real OP. Seek fucking help than trying to blame pick up for your lack of wisdom, Yoda....please. Don't insult that green midget

For your information, I am not a burn victim, a 2ft midget and I definitely don't weigh 400lbs, I am 5'7 tall, weigh around 74kg (163lbs), and I go the gym 6 days a week, plus I play soccer, so I am better shape than most men my age who are usually very overweight or obese. However I am bald (I shave my head), and although I am an Italian Australian, I mistaken for an Arab, and I know for a fact women despise Arab looking men.

If you are a model, then why did you turn to the PUA community/industry?, your looks alone would guarantee you success with women.

I find extremely hard to believe that any woman would find Brad Pitt ugly given how ultra picky modern women are these days.

What exactly is this "inner game"?, and perhaps I do have a bleak view of the world but that's because I have approached women only to be greeted with "instant fuck off signals", dirty looks and the silent SPAM. And before you accuse me of being too picky, I rarely if ever approach hot looking women, as they are completely out of my league, in the past I have only approached average to moderately attractive women.

I have experimented with some PUA material, but I would never waste my money on any of those ridiculous boot camps, and what I discovered is that at best PUA material may make women slightly intrigued by you, but not attracted, there is a difference.

How did I "fail" at pick up, when the dating game is systematically rigged against ugly dudes like me?
two words:

Omar Sharif.

(names not words, i know. and he's egyptian too but didnt he play an arab in lawrence of arabia? women loved that guy.)
I am sorry, but picking a famous, wealthy actor is a bad example, when you are rich and famous women don't care what you look like.


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I find extremely hard to believe that any woman would find Brad Pitt ugly given how ultra picky modern women are these days.
Your post does not make logical sense. That is the reason why some of them would find him ugly - because they are ultra picky (as you claim of course).
If they were NOT ultra picky (again as you claim) then it would be hard to believe.



Ps: there is nothing hard to believe, I am not picky and I find some famous celebrities from the top10 hottests or whatever lists ugly. So I do not see why some women could not find Brad ugly.


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Unless you look like osama bin laden as an arabic man, why the fuck are you saying all women hate arabs? Personally I know some middle eastern women that hate arabs and they themselves look arab.

Dude, it just depends on the girl. You sitting here choding out logic arguing with us. Yes. I am a model. The secret is out. You got me. That's my pick-up mani-fucking-festo.

BECOME A MODEL, tell the girl, you're IN.


No motherfucker. Some girls are just like "oh whatever" and 99.9% of the time I don't tell them I'm a model. Can they assume whatever they want sure, but it does not get me the women. By your logic, I should be closing all the women I talk to. You ask me why I needed pick up? Simple, fucking choice. I was a handsome looking shy ass retard who used to be bossed around by the hottest girls in my high school to the point one girl openly threatened "Why am I even with you? You know I should fuck Kenny....i bet he has a bigger dick than you. You think you look so good well fuck you. ur nothing without me." THIS motherfucker is what motivated me every fucking day. I didn't sit there crying about a girl called Chelsea who was the meanest harshest bitch on the planet.

You say you're in Australia and you can't get ANY women to like you? You're actually telling me, every woman is telling you "please fuck off"? Motherfucker some women obviously say FUCK OFF. LOOK AT my other thread. It happens.

There is something you are not telling us. If you got a beard like a terrorist, then fucking do something about it. Me personally, sometimes I have a beard and I do not give a FUCKKKKKK what the girl thinks. I don't go home crying "but I look middle eastern WAHH"

If not, then what the fuck are you trying to tell us? You are the first man in the world every woman hates...EVERY SINGLE WOMAN? You know I was told I look like the dude from WHITE CASTLE. Know what I said? Want to come back to my place and have some? I f-closed that girl that very night, Caucasian brunette with 36C breasts and a ass that was rock solid.

You met all the women in the world? FYI I look turkish so its part middle eastern and I'm also part Italian, so to hear you say shit like "I look middle eastern (and ur not even middle eastern)" is fucking hilarious.

I know so many countless examples of dudes that are laying girls you'd be jacking off to. And newsflash, 8 of my girlfriends/lovers have been from Newcastle, Melbourne, and Sydney in Australia (2 when I was actually in Australia for 2 months). Last I checked, they didn't tell me to fuck off.

Seek help and stop insulting that green little midget Yoda. I think you are categorizing all women and I'm going to severely fucking doubt you approach any women at all...this much you made clear. I mean you're 40 and only had 200 approaches? I do that much in 2 weeks. Stop categorizing average women to be "Easier" than "hotter women" This is the problem. You lack the core fundamentals of pick up and sorry to say it, you are hellbent on refusing them because you deep down think 'I'm fucking 40...I cant change now...I might as well be alone FOREVER." You have a VICTIM mentality mindset and worse off a women-generalizing mindset based on your experiences for which you cant be blamed. Your brain has taken the experiences you had (mostly bad) and has rationalized it to yourself being the problem rather than the women. Yet again, I don't blame you. You're only human.

But....You don't EVEN want to change. Admit this aspect about yourself. Admit it. Fucking admit it if you are the truth seeker of your own life.
Good looking men who are naturals with women (like yourself), cannot teach ugly dudes like me how to be good with women, because you simply cannot comprehend or empathise what we have to endure. Also you simply do not understand the power your looks gives you in the dating game. Put simply, you won in the genetics lottery, and I lost, but good luck to you.

If you are a male model, then of course you will have mutilple women, that's only because they picked you up, you see one of the biggest myths out there is that men choose women, they don't, women choose you, as a man you simply need to read the IOIs and act upon them.

You blame me for something that I have no control over, and that is how women react to me, or whether they find me attractive. Tell me, how is "game" or PUA material going to help me, if women give me instant fuck off signals and bad body language? (most of my rejections didn't even get to the stage where I asked the woman out for her to say no, I already knew she wasn't interested).

And no I don't have a beard or moustache (I hate facial hair), I shower daily, brush my teeth, use deodorant religiously, and I go the gym 6 days a week, and have a decent fit body for my age. I do admit that I used to be overweight, but over the last 20 odd months I have become a gym junkie and have changed my diet.

As for approaching average looking women, how can I go for hot looking women, when I am not good looking myself?, and have no chance with them, remember you can only aim within your league. Also, I value a womans personality and intelligence than her looks.

I imagine your comeback will be more insults and shaming language, but that's to be expected.


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I rarely approach hot looking women as they are out of my league, and they would reject me instantly.
As long as you continue to believe this, it will continue to be true.

My opinion? You're paying too much attention to how attractive other guys in the room are and not enough attention to the beautiful ladies you claim to desire.

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I base my beliefs on what actually happened to me when on the rare occaision I did approach a hot looking woman, ie. I was greeted with instant fuck off signals, the silent SPAM and dirty looks. The fact is, and whether you like it or not, you have to compete against better looking men, and sadly I have to say an ugly or average looking guy competing for women with a good looking dude, is analgous to putting up a World War 2 spitfire against a modern day F18 Fighter Jet, who do honestly believe is going to win that dog fight?


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Unless you look like osama bin laden as an arabic man, why the fuck are you saying all women hate arabs? Personally I know some middle eastern women that hate arabs and they themselves look arab.

Dude, it just depends on the girl. You sitting here choding out logic arguing with us. Yes. I am a model. The secret is out. You got me. That's my pick-up mani-fucking-festo.

BECOME A MODEL, tell the girl, you're IN.


No motherfucker. Some girls are just like "oh whatever" and 99.9% of the time I don't tell them I'm a model. Can they assume whatever they want sure, but it does not get me the women. By your logic, I should be closing all the women I talk to. You ask me why I needed pick up? Simple, fucking choice. I was a handsome looking shy ass retard who used to be bossed around by the hottest girls in my high school to the point one girl openly threatened "Why am I even with you? You know I should fuck Kenny....i bet he has a bigger dick than you. You think you look so good well fuck you. ur nothing without me." THIS motherfucker is what motivated me every fucking day. I didn't sit there crying about a girl called Chelsea who was the meanest harshest bitch on the planet.

You say you're in Australia and you can't get ANY women to like you? You're actually telling me, every woman is telling you "please fuck off"? Motherfucker some women obviously say FUCK OFF. LOOK AT my other thread. It happens.

There is something you are not telling us. If you got a beard like a terrorist, then fucking do something about it. Me personally, sometimes I have a beard and I do not give a FUCKKKKKK what the girl thinks. I don't go home crying "but I look middle eastern WAHH"

If not, then what the fuck are you trying to tell us? You are the first man in the world every woman hates...EVERY SINGLE WOMAN? You know I was told I look like the dude from WHITE CASTLE. Know what I said? Want to come back to my place and have some? I f-closed that girl that very night, Caucasian brunette with 36C breasts and a ass that was rock solid.

You met all the women in the world? FYI I look turkish so its part middle eastern and I'm also part Italian, so to hear you say shit like "I look middle eastern (and ur not even middle eastern)" is fucking hilarious.

I know so many countless examples of dudes that are laying girls you'd be jacking off to. And newsflash, 8 of my girlfriends/lovers have been from Newcastle, Melbourne, and Sydney in Australia (2 when I was actually in Australia for 2 months). Last I checked, they didn't tell me to fuck off.

Seek help and stop insulting that green little midget Yoda. I think you are categorizing all women and I'm going to severely fucking doubt you approach any women at all...this much you made clear. I mean you're 40 and only had 200 approaches? I do that much in 2 weeks. Stop categorizing average women to be "Easier" than "hotter women" This is the problem. You lack the core fundamentals of pick up and sorry to say it, you are hellbent on refusing them because you deep down think 'I'm fucking 40...I cant change now...I might as well be alone FOREVER." You have a VICTIM mentality mindset and worse off a women-generalizing mindset based on your experiences for which you cant be blamed. Your brain has taken the experiences you had (mostly bad) and has rationalized it to yourself being the problem rather than the women. Yet again, I don't blame you. You're only human.

But....You don't EVEN want to change. Admit this aspect about yourself. Admit it. Fucking admit it if you are the truth seeker of your own life.
Good looking men who are naturals with women (like yourself), cannot teach ugly dudes like me how to be good with women, because you simply cannot comprehend or empathise what we have to endure. Also you simply do not understand the power your looks gives you in the dating game. Put simply, you won in the genetics lottery, and I lost, but good luck to you.

If you are a male model, then of course you will have mutilple women, that's only because they picked you up, you see one of the biggest myths out there is that men choose women, they don't, women choose you, as a man you simply need to read the IOIs and act upon them.

You blame me for something that I have no control over, and that is how women react to me, or whether they find me attractive. Tell me, how is "game" or PUA material going to help me, if women give me instant fuck off signals and bad body language? (most of my rejections didn't even get to the stage where I asked the woman out for her to say no, I already knew she wasn't interested).

And no I don't have a beard or moustache (I hate facial hair), I shower daily, brush my teeth, use deodorant religiously, and I go the gym 6 days a week, and have a decent fit body for my age. I do admit that I used to be overweight, but over the last 20 odd months I have become a gym junkie and have changed my diet.

As for approaching average looking women, how can I go for hot looking women, when I am not good looking myself?, and have no chance with them, remember you can only aim within your league. Also, I value a womans personality and intelligence than her looks.

I imagine your comeback will be more insults and shaming language, but that's to be expected.
He's telling you what you need to hear. CJH is never one for tact but he knows what he is talking about. I think you confuse resistance with disinterest. Throw this league bullshit out the window. You sound AFC as hell. Leagues do not exist. It's all bullshit disqualifies that uneducated guys get in their heads. I've seen too much proof in my daily life to say otherwise. In fact, one of my friends who is a fat slob dates a girl who is 7/8. My guess is that you go in with this attitude that youre going to fail and you exude it. Women are extremely socially intuitive and can sense your lack of confidence. You may be 40 years old but you are extremely immature and uneducated.


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