Hey guys, I just want your thoughts on ASD versus Social Embarrassment.

I seen this HB at the weekend when I was out having a social pint with my friends when I seen this HB8.5 who was totally wasted and falling over to the point where the bouncer was about to throw her out (if this was a guy behaving like this - he'd probably be turfed out on his ass already).

My question is, why do you think a HB would go to such lengths to protect her 'social status' by putting up a ASD playing down every other guys advances, then later in the night she’s rolling around on the floor practically flashing the whole bar?

To put this into context, her own friends in the end just left her too it (they didn't try to help her after the 3-4 time), I think they were either fed up of babysitting or clicked she was doing it for attention.

Even though it was nothing to do with me, I couldnt help but feel a embarrassed and sorry for her.

What are your thoughts?

The thing about those girls are that they are playing hard to get, while getting free drinks for the whole night. Overall what i have noticed sometimes with those "friends" is that they are not really great friends at all. That is my opinion. Some of those group are just hanging around together just because they want social proof.

I personally think this is ridiculous. If some guys are crazy after sex sure go after her, but be ready to get a bucket because she is going to puke all over your house that night.

One more thing is that some girls or most people do not know their limit of drinking, suddenly its just over the line. Thats when real friends come in the picture and stop her making the mistake of drinking to much.

But overall loads of these girls are just after attention. If none of the guys at all is giving her social proof then she would not do that. But guys is giving her social proof and she feels awesome. All those guys trying to hit on me and giving me free drinks. It is kinda a ego boost. But this is how the world work, everyone wants this ego boost to feel so much better.

That is at least my opinion.

Women/girls are socially conditioned from a young age to believe in essence that 'sex is wrong' & having sexual desires is 'wrong' & that they shouldn't have sex with guys unless they are married & all that BS.

women are conditioned to not ask guys out for fear of being too slutty, they are conditioned to not do what guys are expected to do when it comes to male-female sexual interaction.

booze lowers inhibitions for both sexes, makes the other gender look more attractive & the part of the brain that thinks about consequences of one's actions is turned off.

Unfortunately many times girls do not know there limits, until it's to late!

At that point either her real friends will join in like pack wolfs and cock-block the fuck out of you, or they have "left her for dead" (indicating she has done this before!) and she's beyond the point of consensual sex.

You don't want any part of that!

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Thanks for the feedback guys, couple of valid cases made there and I always like to hear other people's perspectives.

I have to admit, I didn't approach her even though I wanted to and she really stood out to me - my buddy clocked her as well and we both wanted to approach so normally in those instances we just agree to drop the bone (we don't compete with each other).

She was wearing this gorgeous blue dress and she seemed to keep catching my eye at various points throughout the night.

I agree partially she may have been fuelled by AFC's buying her drinks trying to buy her attention all night, she may have taken something or even have been spiked - I'm really not sure but she seemed to deteriorate and was really out of it a couple hours later.

Coming back to the point - I agree no self-respecting woman would want a reputation for being the village bicycle via her peers or even by total strangers - But to DLV yourself in a high-end club by rolling around on a filthy floor (in such a lovely dress) proved to be such a spectacle her own social circle rejected her to avoid 'guilt by association' to me doesn't seem a good alternative.

Putting myself in her shoes, even though other people's opinions of me don't usually get to me, if that was my behaviour, I wouldn't dare show my face in that club for a while.

So my other question is:
In general would you say the whole ASD mechanism is just in place for her own social circle (friends/colleagues etc.) or is it in place for other women and being judged by strangers? - The way I see it, the social embarrassment factor I'm fairly sure gave lot of the other women in that bar, something to gossip about.

Whether or not, good or bad scandalous behavior, is a "demonstrate Higher Value Presentation" that will increase your value in the opinion of your audience. It worked on you.

Giver better circumstance, I'm sure you would like to re-open her?

I know a few women that have turned into a complete "Shit Show", only to return to the scene of the crime, many times over.

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Towards the beginning of the night when I first saw her, yes I did want to approach - she seemed to be pretty collected and enjoying herself, but every other time she caught my eye after that she seemed to be deteriorating.
I'm unsure as I didn't open her - If I recognised her perhaps I might still have my own prejudgements.
You're right, it is a popular club and one of the busiest in town - Time will tell.

So they can blame their decisions on the alcohol. I've seen this happen so many times. My friend hooked with this girl in college and everyone found out and called her a slut. Her argument was that she was wasted and she doesn't even remember it happening. They'll put up an ASD, but once they find something or someone to pin their shame on they go wild.

This is a brilliant point, I can recall events where my own male friends try to pin the blame on someone/something else to excuse their actions on a night out.

Depending on circumstances, I sometimes feel like I get tarred with the same 'guilt by association' brush - if its a lads night out I lower my expectations of getting numbers, k closes etc.