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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:06 pm 
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So as I've been reading PUA materials and trolling around forums for years I've come to the conclusion that all of our HB rating systems are either highly flawed, overly simplistic or generally useless.

I propose a new system based on categories of approach style. HB's can be all over the place in terms of looks, and they can also be all over the place in terms of availability as a target. We need one system that consideres both these aspects.

The problem with sayin HB9 is that one mans 9 is another mans 6. And one HB10 can be a total wall flower, while another can be a total man eater. It's just not enough info.

Here's what I propose, the additional notation of an A-F grading. This system assumes that you will be judged by your target, and as such she will place you on a social ladder and treat you accordingly. Your job is to properly identify where you stand in relation to your target, then use that as leverage in your approach.

A (Aphrodities) - this is any girl that has seemingly higher social value than you. Regardless of looks, you will have to work to get her. Most girls will fall into this category for AFC and beginner PUA's, but since most of us never actually see the girls as described, it speaks to the type of approach necessary to win her over - you must build value before any attempts to build rapport.

B (Bitches) - This is your run of the mill girl of seemingly equal social value as yourself. She may be hot as hell, or maybe just sexy enough that you want to fuck her. Your approach either way is "dissarm first, then build rapport, then demonstrate value". Once you are A to her, then you are much more likely to succeed.

C (Chasers) - This is any girl who wants to stand in the back row and be picked out by you. She already finds you attractive, but she also finds every other attractive guy in the room just as enticing. She is waiting for one of you to singler her out and start the chase. Otherwise she is just going to assume you are either a wuss, or more interested in someone else. BS is low here, but every insecure girl brain comes with a dash of disbelief. Approach type "flatter, build rapport, then rapid kino escalation"

D (Desperates) - This is any girl who is out to find a guy, just like you. She isn't concerned with your social value, she is armed only with a set of standards. If you meet them, you are in, all you have to do is be man up and make a move. Approach type "cocky funny first, then rapid kino escalation"

F (Followers) - This is more or less the social bottom of the barrel. But all of us once in a while need a good ego boost. This is the cute puppy dog friend that follows the Aphrodities around trying to spunge off their greatness. The mindless cock blockers that want to ruin your night so they can gain a few points of noteriety in the eyes of their fearless leader. They are easilty manipulated but their goals only revolve around their betters. There are two approach types as they will behave totally different in their group vs out. Approaching IN group "Neg Aphroditie, build rapport with group, flatter target, build value, seperate". Approaching OUT of group "flatter, build rapport, Neg Aphroditie, build value, rapid kino escalation".

The only classification below these could be "I" for ignorable. But since if they aren't one of the above, you probaby could care less. But I'll mention it in case people want to use it like this:

"So i was out at a bar, I was focusing on this group with HB10A, HB9C, and an HB6I."

Hopefully this will help the community better describe targets without all the assumptions that result in long threads of clarification of what "HB8" really meant.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:44 am 
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No offense but this is dumb.

Rating women on here is kinda silly anyways.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:22 am 
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\ating women on here is kinda silly anyways.
Rating women anywhere is "kinda silly". This place isn't an exception.

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LOL! I like some of your descriptions

I think this is quite an interesting idea. It should take away a whole load of explaining the scenareo and situation in any FR. I wonder if it will actually catch on...


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Numbers are a pain. I'd rather just say hot, cute, or what the fuck happened to her face. You're right, it is subjective, but geez I don't want a 10 character code to describe women.


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\ating women on here is kinda silly anyways.
Rating women anywhere is "kinda silly". This place isn't an exception.
Everybody says their girl is a HB10 anyways, so... Totally silly. The only good way to rate a girl is as a joke in The Fresh Prince series. Then it's funny. ;)

No, seriously. What does it matter if you attach a number to a girl? Doesn't tell you anything about her. Having "been around the block a few times", I've realized it is infinitely more important to find out if this girl is crazy or brings drama with her, or is just looking for a fun time.

Besides, my policy is that the girl doesn't have to be "attractive", as long as she isn't "unattractive". ;)


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Rating women on here is kinda silly anyways.





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Everyone has their own rateing system 10 point system is hard to agree apon with more easily impressed or shallow people. I use a 5 point scale for less margine of error. we can all go on and on on how our rateing system is better but at the end of the day we all sound like opinionated assholes and were all doing the exact same thing. :D

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No offense but this is dumb.

Rating women on here is kinda silly anyways.
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder rate them according to what you think, not what others think.

For me there are two types of women those I would sleep with and those that I would not, anything beyond that dictates compatibility and how long a relationship (if any) would last.... scoring?ironically pointless to me.


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i attracted to bitches and i approach bitches .. i dont know .. for me it's normal to be a bitch.

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i see no need for this.. my HB10 is probbly not your HB10 as for example HB10 for me is someone like kat von D prettymuch, black hair, hot, tattoos piercings and all that... now for alot of other guys i guess a HB10 is big tits, blond hair, no tattoos, no piercings... and so on...

but does this mather?
no..
my 10'ers are just that... 10'ers... for me

saying that i approched a HB10 simply means i approched someone i find extreamly hot and that takes more guts than approching someone i find to be ok looking... wether it is my 10 or your 10 makes no difference... hell i can have the hardest time in the world to approch my HB10 but have no problem whatsoever approching your HB10 as she is not my "type"...

se my point? the system is still valid :D


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By the way, Psych3r, no one is hating on your system. We're just saying that numbers can never describe a girl to begin with. If anything, your system does improve that a little, just not enough to be fully supported. But cool idea. It's moving in the right direction.

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I rate them like this:

1) I don't want to get to know this girl

2) I want to get to know this girl.

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No offense taken. Frankly rating IS generally dumb, and that's what sparked me to post this. Since people are going to do it anyway, and EVERY SINGLE post has either HB8-10 to describe the target, it was starting to get silly.

I just figured a way to better describe the situation relating to the girl might be easier and quicker than jsut saying "so i'm all up onz this HB9" and then having to paint a whole picture around the fact that she is out of reach instead of shortening it to something simple.

Just tryin to save time peoples.

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