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 Post subject: Helping an ex PUA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:37 pm 
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Here we go. I never thought I would ask for advice in this field however I am getting frustrated and for the first time in my life kind of desperate.
Anyway here is my history I am 30 years old and I never had problems with women. I am what you guys call here a natural. Funny, the centre of attention, have been told a 100 times that I am good looking…blablabla. I got married at 26 though or I would die with some sex disease, and was together with my wife until 4 months ago. Here is the catch I met someone at work that made my heart go crazy, I discovered that I had the capability to love someone to dead and that is priceless… sorry PUAs I never thought that would happen to me but it did. Lets move to the point now she is engaged though and I made the terrible rookie mistake to tell her about my feelings for her around 6 months ago. We used to hang out a lot before that and we still do it but I can’t meet her on weekends and more personal environments now. We have to work together everyday in different projects so as I said I got game so I have massage her, put cream on her, kissed her neck a million times, played with her hair, tell about future plans with her, when we are together in my on her computer I always touch her on her lower back and run my fingers all over here until she gets the goose bumps (it takes3 seconds). BUT nothing more happen …yes I know! I can’t figure that out, she says she loves her fiancé he is a nice guy blablabla but she rarely stops me when a touch her she loves to hang around me, she asks about my weekends and days and everything, plus her face changes if I am talking to another women, all the IOiS you guys know are there. She is a family girl and I don’t know if her parents would be happy if she splits up but I don’t think that is it. By the way she is only 24. I know that I give her to much attention but I just don’t know what to do. If anybody can help a “ex PUA” that doesn’t seem to have it anymore I appreciate it”. By the way I am confident so that is not it. And I just read the whole thing and I feel pathetic….. anyway I still need help!


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You know what to do. You already stated it. You will not do it because it could mean losing her and whatever small amount of attention you get. Walk away. Be indifferent to her. She will either come to you (because she is not there regardless of the attention you get) or she will just become a co-worker.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:02 pm 
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Here we go. I never thought I would ask for advice in this field however I am getting frustrated and for the first time in my life kind of desperate.
Anyway here is my history I am 30 years old and I never had problems with women. I am what you guys call here a natural. Funny, the centre of attention, have been told a 100 times that I am good looking…blablabla. I got married at 26 though or I would die with some sex disease, and was together with my wife until 4 months ago. Here is the catch I met someone at work that made my heart go crazy, I discovered that I had the capability to love someone to dead and that is priceless… sorry PUAs I never thought that would happen to me but it did. Lets move to the point now she is engaged though and I made the terrible rookie mistake to tell her about my feelings for her around 6 months ago. We used to hang out a lot before that and we still do it but I can’t meet her on weekends and more personal environments now. We have to work together everyday in different projects so as I said I got game so I have massage her, put cream on her, kissed her neck a million times, played with her hair, tell about future plans with her, when we are together in my on her computer I always touch her on her lower back and run my fingers all over here until she gets the goose bumps (it takes3 seconds). BUT nothing more happen …yes I know! I can’t figure that out, she says she loves her fiancé he is a nice guy blablabla but she rarely stops me when a touch her she loves to hang around me, she asks about my weekends and days and everything, plus her face changes if I am talking to another women, all the IOiS you guys know are there. She is a family girl and I don’t know if her parents would be happy if she splits up but I don’t think that is it. By the way she is only 24. I know that I give her to much attention but I just don’t know what to do. If anybody can help a “ex PUA” that doesn’t seem to have it anymore I appreciate it”. By the way I am confident so that is not it. And I just read the whole thing and I feel pathetic….. anyway I still need help!
Well... on the bright side...you have some kino escalation going for you.

Don't just walk away and be indiffrent if your trying to steal this girl from her fiance 100% you lose then. You haven't built that much yet. What you need to accomplish to pull this off, is to plant little seeds of doubt in her mind about her fiance'... and for god's sake don't talk about your "plans for the future" or anything like that untill your WAY WAY WAY into further stages. People tend to project there own feelings, you need to make her deeply want to cheat on him with you, and ten soon those seeds of doubt will turn into her accusing him of cheating, fights, and her ultimately cheating on him with you...

But in general, I'd search on here and read about frames, patterns, pacing, and BF destroyers... to start with. I'm a "natural" as well and I know sometimes it's easy for us to slack off because we can do fairly well without much effort... but if you wanna do this, your gunna need to become a real PUA.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:38 pm 
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Thanks guys. I appreciate it. I agree with things that both of you said. I know I have to lose the fear of losing her and play her as I played so many others that I didn’t care for or cared a little. But because she is so high on my books I don’t want to throw away everything I did. I know she thinks I am a catch, as you know secretaries talk a lot hahaha…. I did some work on the BF side as well as I framed him pretty badly with an event that didn’t happen but I made her doubt on it. However I didn’t finish off as I should, I stupidly thought I had done enough. He is crazy about her though and it will be hard to catch him doing any wrong. What plays on my side is that she doesn’t like that he doesn’t have a drive to do anything with his life. And I am slowly playing that into her mind too. We talk about projects I want to accomplish on my work and other plans I have as well. I was naïve to include her on some those plans however I think I do have an edge on her still. The communication channel is pretty open the only thing that bothers me is that she doesn’t trust me 100% I know that based on comments like “you always had everything you want, don’t you?” or “oohh now that you are single again are you gonna go to the bar all the time?” I will read more on your suggestions. Take care!


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 Post subject: Re: thanks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:57 am 
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He is crazy about her though and it will be hard to catch him doing any wrong. What plays on my side is that she doesn’t like that he doesn’t have a drive to do anything with his life. And I am slowly playing that into her mind too. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . “oohh now that you are single again are you gonna go to the bar all the time?”
Ok, first of all, definitely take the Docs advice. I don't personally agree with the "moral" part about taking her from her b/f, BUTTTTT I also don't know how SHE really feels about her b/f either. So, The Doc's advice is excellent on this.

Now, you say he is crazy about her, but how does SHE FEEL ABOUT HIM? Also, "you won't catch him doing any wrong" makes him sound more like an AFC kind of guy, which will be easy to blow away. He doesn't have a drive to do anything with his life? Also easy to blow him away. Then, HER comment, which I've quoted above . . . leads me to believe that she actually is interested in you but figures you're too dangerous for her because you will be picking up other chicks, which YOU SHOULD STILL DO, but maybe not as BLATANTLY as you would normally.

That's my take.


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