Do you guys find it harder to F-close a virgin? Or is it just as easy?

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LOL. Depends on the virgin, but I would say it would be harder, because they are a virgin for a reason. But, it would help to know how old you are and how old this virgin is.

I've fuck closed one and could have done it with another, but chose not to, and we're friends today. But that was before PUA, lol. That was back in the day when I didn't know about PU. Apparently I was doing something right, lol.

I've never had any trouble with it... for me it would be on the 3rd date... I also use GM style and alot of NLP, and for Virgins I run ALOT of phone game on them usually over the course of 1-2 weeks and 3 in person hangouts... This is also pertaining to those abstenace girls... if she's a virgin but isn't specifically waiting for marriage and telling you "sex is out of the question unless we end up married!", then it's way easier.

Also be warned the sex will be GOD AWFULL for 2-5 time depending on her genetics... And she will be attached no matter what.

Personally I swore off Virgins 3 years ago but before that in the first year after I lost it, I collected 7 V-cards... I don't recommend it though, the aftermath is the bad part.

haha 7 v-cards? damnnn. Yeah this girl is very hot probably a high 9. She's 18, and I'm 19. I'm not too sure if shes waiting for that 'special someone' or what, but I'm thinking about going for it. I'm just afraid she will get too attached. Plus we would have to do it like 5 times before its good like you said.

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She's 18 and a virgin? VERY rare man. Of course I'm sure you know that.

Well, it just happens that both of the ones I mentioned were close to that same age. The one I popped the cherry of was actually 17. The other one I could have popped the cherry of at any time was I think 18. I let her lose it to someone else. We did mess around and make out quite a bit though.

But then you do have that aftermath. The girl does get more attached faster because of the virginity issue. Of course if the girl is someone you really do like, that's not an issue.

Just watch out, cause that old saying about the woman scorned . . .

haha.. virgins, i always have some basic disrespect towards them, cause i really like slutty girls actually.

however.. from my experience i would divide them into 3 types:

1. virgin because she has deep emotional problems regarding the act of sex.
2. virgin because of external social reasons (religion etc)
3. virgin because she's somewhat immature, over protective, seen too much mtv and want that 'special guy' etc.

so...... if you encounter:

virgin #1- stay away... run away.... move to another city, make sure you never ever see her again not even by accident. omg just keep away from her. gross.

virgin #2- this depends how strong her beliefs are, and if she PERSONALLY believes that virginity is right, or if she just blindly follows what the priest says etc. but generally u should treat her as virgin #3, just be a bit more careful not to have her hate herself for sleeping with u after the deed

virgin #3- this girl is as easy/hard to have sex with as a normal girl with ONE major difference - she feels she's giving up more when she's having sex. in this case it's the usual approach to reluctant girls - have her feel that it's more emotionally painful not to sleep with you than to let go of her virginity. how do you do that? be that great guy, charmer, pua, whatever - use whatever material or attitudes you need... and then subtly make her understand (but never say it outright) that all these wonderful things go away if she doesn't have sex with you very soon.

that being said, i usually find a fact that a girl is virgin so unattractive that i lose interest almost immediately... virgin.. how un-sexy is that!

To the first part . . . THAT's disrespectful man.
To the second part . . . I don't see a correlation between virginity and sexual or non-sexualness. Three virgins I've personally messed with have been VERY sexy. Sexy enough that ALL the guys wanted them.

fair enough, to each his own, for me once i find out that they're virgins i start seeing them in a different light. but maybe it's just me though

i say stay away it could be a whole lot more trouble than you want unless you actually want a relationship with the girl

So I really dont have much creative to add to this except im going to be attempting an fclose on a virgin in 15 days! my day2 is in 2 weeks when she'll be back in town, im a sad panda...

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Wait a minute . . . your day "2" is . . . in two WEEKS? . . . on a VIRGIN? . . . and your expecting to fuck close then? I'm guessing you're running some MAJOR phone game on her in the meantime? Or you're promising a relationship?

lol, yeah back in HS... Take a big time Churhc Group kid, have him decide he no longer believes in abstenace until marriage... toss in Varsity QB, and Star Pitcher/Captain of the Baseball team, and that it turns out he's a natural in the GM style. And thats what you get, lol.

lol, now everyone thinks I'm a "virgin killer", not like I seek them out on purpose.

Yeah thats gunna be tough man... if it's your first virgin. They do think diffrently about things... well if they're the type of virgin whos had offers but passed it up that is.

What do you think of this approach - Tell her you're not comfortable with her being a virgin....make her seem like she's done something wrong but you're totally fine with her as a person and you want to be good friends. Back away a little and she just might throw herself at you.

....or you could do what Seymore Butts (the porn guy) did when he was young. He told girls that having anal sex didn't make you lose your virginity. It led him to a lifelong obsession with drilling for brown oil.

i just set this up too haha

we're going to a party, well im going to the party, its at her beach house.

Shes one of those ugly ducklings from high school who realized they were gorgeous if they dressed correctly. So she wants to, just she hasnt had the chance, thats where I come in. Its at her place, she is already expecting me to crash there.

BUT to throw a curveball, I asked to bring a friend, she said "sure"

Im bringing a chick

But running phone game in the next 14 days is crucial.

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