o.k., lately i have been seeing guys talk about how they act like assholes to a girl, and expect to get MAJOR points, and that the old methods don't work anymore. I am here to tell you that the basics from 50 years ago STILL work today, and is really important in getting the girl.

1st mistake: Men NEG to the point of being an asshole, and this pisses girls off. You only neg in the attraction stage, which is about 7 minutes, then you NEG a little bit lighter in the comfort stage, maybe C1 and a little bit of C2, nothing more.

2nd mistake: Men think that being a nice guy is never good, ever. this is true, for the M3 system, which is only courtship. when dating, you want to be a gentleman, open the door for her, talk nice to her, and compliment her. I am not saying get pushed around, that is NEVER GOOD, when she does something bad, punish her. when she is good, reward her for good behavior.

3rd mistake: Men make the women do EVERYTHING, cooking, cleaning, etc. first off, women LOVE men who can cook... and it is a DHV, and great for showing you are not afraid of work, or taking care of her. and have a clean room or house, it shows you are not a pig, for a good explanation of this go to http://www.area51lifestyle.com/makeover1.php




this is all i have for now, if you have any questions comment.

I agree, to a point, but even Mystery says to reward her for good behavior even in the M3 model. In fact, as soon as A2, considering the opening is literally seconds long. "Punish" her for bad behavior, but "reward" her for good behavior.

I'm glad someone finally put this into words. I've come to find out recently that some guys have such a disdain for women that they have begun to think they can't pickup while still maintaing being a nice guy and that women's opinions don't matter. VERY untrue and I think guys that believe such things are going to find themselves in a tough position the day they meet a girl that they see as more than a piece of ass.

i agree i think the best way too look at it is to do what they dont expect. if you can keep a girl on her toes by PLAYFULLY neging her while still doing nice guy things like opening doors and cooking for her it will keep her guessing. once a girl figures you out then she tends to lose intrest so dont go all the way to either extreme, girls like the bad boy that they can still take home to mama so be that.
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