I constantly hear guys going back and forth about the etiquette of dating. They wonder if they should pay and a host of other modern norms of male/female interactions. But one of the single most beneficial elements of this community is understanding. We have to understand that modern dating, the norm of society, is nothing more than legalized prostitution.

Prostitutes sell themselves in return for money. Strippers do this as well, yet under the guise of "adult entertainment." But make no mistake, the women of the world have an even more deceitful guise. They too sell themselves, but they rather sell themselves for dinner, flowers, valentine gifts, dominance, and status. What we can learn from the game is that prostitution is the most extreme form of DLV than a man can commit. You are giving up your worth for the natural resource of the woman. This is the same as paying a stripper. However, paying a stripper is an even bigger DLV because you are getting even less of a product.

This brings us to dating, a global enterprise more profitable than the oil industry, steel industry, and the GDP of China combined. Every thing a man does from the time he wakes up in the morning until he goes to bed is done with the ultimate goal of earning the "priviledge" of getting the oppurtunity of spending his hard earned wage on a woman. He buys her flowers, takes her to dinner. She might be the modern type of woman that pretends to pull out her purse all the while knowing full and well the immediate response will be, "No no, its my pleasure." There is more dignity preserved in buying a cheap prostitute and making the exchange in the backseat of a rental car than putting yourself through the public spectacle of what we call modern dating. At least prostitution is done in the privacy of a sedan. Modern dating is an insult to our race.

PUAs do not hate women. We are what we are because we love them. But we show that by being men, the other necessary half of nature. Modern dating is not only prostitution; it is legalized slavery. There are new members with some lingering hints of AFC that are still holding on, and I hope they read this. Buying her nice things will not make her like you. Throwing yourself at her and obeying her every wish will do nothing but use you up like an oil field until there is nothing left. You cannot be attracted to something you do not respect. And there is no respect in chivalry anymore. In the Dark Ages, a king would bring his queen expensive gifts. But the difference is back then, he took it off of the decapitated head of a conquered citizen of another city. He was dominant, and he did not need validation. Unfortunately, the tables have turned. But the only way to escape that clusterfucking of the natural order is to understand it. And before anyone else asks about whether or not that she buy her this, or pay her way into that.... for God's sake read this first.

I like your perception on the world of dating, very astute observations, and quite valid ones too. As for the King bringing the Queen gifts from the decapitated conquests, let's keep in mind that in the Middle-ages though King's did have mistress, and Queen's had their lover's.

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Ok way offensive. 2 people marry and say only one of them works because he or she has a job that affords them the luxury of not needing 2 incomes. The non working spouse has sex with the other naturally and yet gets financial supports as well as gifts. That means every human being is by your definition a prostitute.

As a former stripper I find this to be blatent bashing on women most men can't pick up or are to afraid to pick up.

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saying this is offensive is like saying Pickup is offensive.

Thats the beauty of language. You can manipulate it to define whatever you want however you want, with some practice.

Interesting post david

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I think what you've described is the perfect blueprint for a healthy marriage. The man that works provides the wealth for the family, and the wife manages the home and takes care of the kids. This is the perfect give/take relationship and marriages following this method are guaranteed to outlast other marriages. However, when both spouses are working, you make competitors out of spouses. They are constantly competing for dominance. So marriage is the perfect example of how man/woman relations can result in equal exchanges, and ultimately harmony.

LMAO! No offense davidshankle, but that post is somewhat chauvenistic. The woman could very well be the breadwinner, W/O the man being a wuss, AND having a VERY healthy marriage.

You know, these days, it's entirely possible that the woman brings home the money and the man takes care of the home and kids. It's called a stay at home dad, and there's actually nothing wussy about it. In fact, I think it takes more balls to do that sometimes than to go the "traditional" route.

"This is the perfect give/take relationship and marriages following this method are guaranteed to outlast other marriages." NOT true at all.

How old are you?

The point is that both spouses aren't working and inducing an unnecessarily competitive environment. If it's the man or the woman, so be it. But having two spouses work is unhealthy. Both of my parents worked, and most of the people I know were the same way. 90% of the time this established a domestic rivalry.

And one thing the game has done for me is allowed me to look at human nature objectively. For instance, its a scientific fact that there is a maternal bond between the mother and child that better facilitates a relationship. Therefore, if one spouse is going to stay home raising the kids, we can talk about equal rights all day long and I'm all for them, but science says that the natural bond between the mother and the young is more natural than the male's.

I think what you've described is the perfect blueprint for a healthy marriage. The man that works provides the wealth for the family, and the wife manages the home and takes care of the kids. This is the perfect give/take relationship and marriages following this method are guaranteed to outlast other marriages. However, when both spouses are working, you make competitors out of spouses. They are constantly competing for dominance. So marriage is the perfect example of how man/woman relations can result in equal exchanges, and ultimately harmony.[/quote]

I have to agree here with you sir. I know of many marriages that disintegrated because the man and woman were in competition and totally absorbed in their own egos. However, we need to understand that it is often necessary for both people to work to keep the house alive. What to do? Easy, get out of your head and realize that all relationships if proper are partnerships.

Gnostos, you make a good point. The marriage is a partnership.

david . . . we can debate the "better" scientific person to stay home and raise the kids, but it's a waste of time. There's nothing wrong with the man taking that role, AND the kids can still facilitate relationships just as well. Sure, the mom has her role and the dad has his role, and you can't change or replace that, but let's not go overboard.

Ah yes i just finished reading this post I 100% disagree with ur views David. Its actually complete BS really. Who cares if the women makes more money than the man. It should never be a battle for dominance in a household based on who makes more money. If every man thought like u they'd be paranoid of there marriage.
Hell if I was married an my wife made who made more we could put my check in bank for a rainy day.
A man is still the man regardless if he makes less or not.
Money is not the measure of a real man
Only a true bitch of a man would be upset if his wife made more money.

Also the theory on postitution further proof of nonsense

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Why the hell are you guys talking about marriage? One person just subtly mentioned marriage and now you guys are on a rampage, stick to the topic at hand.

If you don't think modern norms of dating are perfect examples of legalized prostitution, then go back to buying girls flowers, paying for expensive dinners every other night, and kissing her ass hoping she likes you. Disagree if you like, but you obviously haven't shaken off the AFC, and your ass-kissing approach to women makes you unfit to be a PUA. So take a break from this misogynistic forum, and go help your boss shop for shoes.

LMAO! OMG, we are ass kissing because we don't see why there's a problem that the woman makes more money? Who said WE buy flowers and dinner? I sure don't. Not unless the woman is long term anyway. DEFINITELY not on a first night. No way.

We're not talking about marriage.... get off that kick. We're talking about modern dating.... period. You guys are pulling marriage into that and its irrelevant.

Cross gets more ass in a night than u get in a life time BABY!!!!!!

Don't worry David you'll grow out of ur chump ways eventually well.... maybe not but u can dream

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