I'd like to know other people's opinions on this view I have.

I think clubs on the whole in Britain for a PUA, are generally bad territory. The music is too loud, so our words can't be that effective if we're always having to repeat (I use tricks and so I can't take my props), while the naturals seem to excel in this environment. Once they've had a few drinks, their aggressive alpha instincts come out, and you can end up being AMOG'd pretty easily.

Even the AFC's do OK by dancing around birds on the dancefloor and occasionally getting a k-close. But lets face it, that is no challenge and it requires little skill. Most dancefloor kiss closes end there. Girls just see you as something they kissed that night, rather than something of value.

Thus the problem is for someone like me that until 11pm, I can have a good night using my routines to number close and to be the alpha of bars, but after that, the night goes downhill. Most British people head on for a club after the bars rather than sticking around, save for an older crew, but at 23, my game is obviously not as effective.

So, the question is, are there any nightclub specialists out there who have techniques that can make them alpha in a club?

And even if not, any thoughts on this situation.

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simple solution mate, just remember that words are the smallest part of commuication. and if your body language is right, when a woman cant hear you she ask you to repeat...then neg her on her hearing, easy solution

Yeah i know the sound is too loud , but the thing that i do is to stay around the bar zone where the girls go to buy a drink in the club and where the music isnt that loud, avoid the dancefloor. Try to arrive early to the club ,and start gaming when u arrive , the music is at a lower volume at the start so take advantage of that.

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I never find this a problem tbh.

Been english myself I have always been naturally funny/sarcastic after looking at a few pua methods in detail (all american) I filter stuff I wont use the principals are the same.

I'm 23 I live in Newcastle find places where you dont get the people in ben shermans dancing about like they have cerebal palsy. Or blag your way into the vip area if it has one.

I would say the whole music loudness issue is just because you dont talk loud enough, im not saying lean in and scream in her ear.

My tip in this situation would be lock into the set even if you are just having chit chat with some bird you met at the bar. Then it gives the impression to other girls that you are getting hit on by this girl and raises your value.

I would also say another big point is talk to as many people as you can even if you dont know them including men it will give you social proof.

A big one for me is believe you are the best, walk tall exude confidence and dont be afraid to move to different spots in the club if it's dead.

i agree.
nightclubs can be easy aswell. but they tend to be the dregs of the night.
i always find that if you just start talking to a couple of birds-no matter how innocently, then others are alerted and give you that social proof.
as ross jefferies said, they always wanna eat from someone elses bowl'
good luck - good thread !!

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