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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:41 am 
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Here's the situation, girl initiates the communication with me over the internet (which was a first time I've meet someone online) after we talk via email for the next couple days and talk on the phone for hours we decided to meet one night and it went great. She seemed real into me and landed 1st base within the first hour we meet. We started dating and she'd come over and stay the night a couple times a week and we really got along. At about the third week she came over one night and wouldn't even let me touch her and things just digressed from there. Within the week we went from talking and texting every day and seeing eachother a few days to where she wouldn't even text me back for a couple days and when she did it was always "busy txt later" which she never would. This went on for about a week and a half when I finaly said I'd had enough and didn't like the lack of attention I was getting. She said she had been extremely busy lately and is adjusting to the work scene vs. college scene and she just didn't have time. I told her I was tired of being the standbye guy and ended and completely cut myself off from her. I've dated for awhile and I'm dating 2 other girls right now but she has been the only girl I've wanted to actually have a relationship with for a long while now. My questions are if reinitiation with the relationship is possible and if so how? She isn't much of a social bug so seeing her out isn't really much of a possibility. Also, if I am able to reinitiate how far should I take the DHV portion. It would seem to me that I should focus more seeing as I must have dropped my value when we started dating.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:10 am 
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in my experience, trying to get back w/ a one-itis(girl youre hooked on) is bad. Why?
If you try to run game on her it wont work. For the simple fact that PUA usually go after targets because they dont have past history or deep feelings associated, there is no inner mental obstacle they have to work through in the middle of the sarge.

When DHV to her in your current state it wont be as effective cuz, she may already know your value, or you'll fumble in your speech or presentation cuz of your feelings and concern. And she WILL see that. Especially since you two have been intimate she'll pick you apart.

Trust me dude best chance of you getting w/ this girl is to let her go and meet new ones.

Hope that makes some sense. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:25 am 
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honestly dude. if that's what happened odds are you were either

A. a rebound
or
B. she was really lonely and just wanted to be with somebody then realized that wasn't the right way..


odds are you were a rebound.. i'd just keep looking straight forward unless you really think she's a keeper.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:49 am 
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Not sure if she was a "keeper" but did want somemore time and maybe find out. Doesn't seem as though there is anyway back out of this which is fine. Looks like this weekend is gonna be sarge intensive for a little bit of retribution :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:42 am 
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So after almost a month, a full week of it sarging in my home town dallas, I finaly got over this situation and decided I'd try and play nice. I had deleted her # and removed her from myspace but didn't delete my emails and decided to send her a message it read as follows.

Me: Hey I'm sorry but my feelings where a little hurt over all this, your a great person and would be terrible to think I didn't come out with at least a friend from all this.

Her: It's okay, it's good to hear from you

So I re-invited her to myspace b.s. and left it at that. Come to find out she was in a relationship with someone which really threw me off since the reason we called it off is b/c she didn't have time for a relationship but whatever.. so we ended it and I embraced this lifestyle and moved on..
A week later she texts me over the weekend
Her: Hey! I'm at the game it's crazy GO HOGS!
Me: That's great they better win this week I put money on them
~And that was it
So this past weekend I get a couple texts from her the highlight being

Her: When r u goin 2 take me on a ride on ur motor. (motorcycle)
Me: Hmm I dunno there's only one seat available and they sell ot quick, u wanting to make a reservation?

Now I maybe overreacting but the fact she wanted to sit behind me with her hand around my waist seemed a little forward since we hadn't seen eachother since before we broke up.
I get no reply for a couple hours and figure I hurt her feelings so I text to see what she's doing and she says she got real busy. I find out later that she's single again and what I took as playful banter in a friendly manner (I'm no longer looking to make it work with her) may be her trying to get back with me. We've been over for about a month now (so not long) and really haven't said shit to eachother. Then this weekend we communicate more than we were just b4 we split and to top it off she wants me to take her for a ride...

SO, my question is do you think she's trying to patch things up or we still on the same page of being friends? If not should I bring it up and tell her I just want to be friends or just stop communicating?

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I would suggest just staying out of her grasp. Maker her yearn for you. Then cut her off! Okay nix the last part and just keep her on her toes. There are only two outcomes. Goodluck

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First of all Props to you Surreal for Initiating proper Kino with this HB, Most Internet Dating doesn't go well. you said in the third week she wouldnt even let you touch her (She was breaking off the physical) this means you fell into the "Just Friends Catagory" becouse you failed to move on to the Seduction stage within the proper timeing. did you have sex with her within those 3 weeks?
Next- Her not responding to you was a strong indicator that YOU do not have HER attention. When you do not have a womans attention within that time frame it's already over "Once a woman forms an opinion about you, theres nothing you can do to change that" - David Deangello
Theres nothing you can do but make it a learning experience and hone your Game with it. Thats called "Calibrating" the only reason why she was still responding "Busy Txt Later" was because she did not want to be the one to bring it to a close, she was waiting for you to do it, and you DID

I'm glad you have moved on
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:43 am 
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did you have sex with her within those 3 weeks?
The 3 weeks we saw eachother or the 3 weeks we were apart? When we were dating then yes but after that no.

This was the first "official" internet hookup I've ever been on and apparently hers as well since neither one of us was willing to admit to any of our friends that we meet over myspace.
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Next- Her not responding to you was a strong indicator that YOU do not have HER attention.
My only question here is that I never really tried to talk with her at all but she started the communication and then asked me on a date.

I completely agree with you Envy other than the fact that I'm not trying to make her yearn for me.
To me it seems as if she's trying to play the game all over again and I'm not wanting to play anymore but I'm not sure if she is showing interest or just trying to establish a friendship.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:35 pm 
The only way you will really know which way she is trying to go is to do what was suggested and stay JUST out of her reach. I wouldn't even initiate contact UNLESS SHE DOES. Then, ONLY REPLY, don't send more than one. DON'T let her know that you want her. If she knows that, you're still RIGHT where you are at this very moment. She is in control right now, and as long as she is in control, YOU'RE NOT, and she IS NOT ATTRACTED TO THAT.

Whether you WANT to play the game or not honestly doesn't matter.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:38 pm 
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(She was breaking off the physical) this means you fell into the "Just Friends Catagory" becouse you failed to move on to the Seduction stage within the proper timeing.
I just wanted to quote this because I think it's an excellent post, and 100% true. There is only places for men in this game. The "friend zone" or the "end zone" Once you place yourself in one or the other. It's pretty hard to get out.

Sounds to me like you had a solid introduction, you just needed to improve and impliment a better Mid game. But don't sweat her, just another day at the office and another lesson learned.

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