First, don't even bother with newly engaged or married girls. I think you'll have better chances with a nun than a girl who just made a huge commitment with another man. It takes at least a few months for that to wear out.


That leaves two other types of girls with boyfriends: ones that are unhappy and ones that are neither unhappy nor quite ecstatic either. The best way to find out what type of girl you are dealing with is the length of time it takes until she drops the boyfriend.

The longer amount of time until she drops the bomb, the better. It's best if she doesn't mention the boyfriend at all and you learn from a third party. Think about that for a second… if a girl is happy with her man, he will keep popping up in her head, leading to a large amount of guilt when talking to a player she is attracted to. She attempts to relieve this guilt by mentioning him as much as possible in the conversation.

The sooner she mentions him and the more times she mentions him, the less likely you will get anywhere. This should be your guide to see if you should commit to gaming a girl with a boyfriend, especially since they will take more work than a single girl.

On the other hand if it takes a girl over 20 minutes for her to drop the boyfriend, consider her breakable. Now combine that with her engaging you, making eye contact, asking your questions, and touching you. The more she does any of these things, the less issue the boyfriend is and more you can proceed as you normally do.

It takes a little experience to tell between the girls who flirt just to feel attractive and girls who want to get banged by a new dick, but you'll know for sure when you go to number or kiss close; one will put up Great Wall of China resistance and the other will only offer token resistance.

If the approach is going well and things are progressing past the thirty minute mark, just keep doing what you're doing and go for the kiss on the same night. When you get in close she will make a verbal objection about having a boyfriend but just like you would do if she was resisting in the bedroom, simply agree with her so she doesn't think further about it in her mind.

Don't make it a tug of war, but then of course you try again a few minutes later, breaking down the resistance. If she says she can't do anything with you, just say you weren't trying anyway with a smile. But keep pushing until you get it.

For girls that seem to be breakable but not easy, the only way to it is through regular access. If you work with her or see her weekly, then repeated access to her will nibble at her resistance until she just goes through with it. It's because she can't just forget about you or un-attract herself to you. But if you meet her one night in the club and just get her number, the seduction is over because she won't allow her to see you without feeling like a cheat. Every extra minute she hangs with you and a minute's worth exposure of your game that will help your cause.

Bottom line is if she puts herself in a position to cheat, she will cheat, and you should take full advantage of it.

then two days later she flipped out and told me she loved her bf and to leave her the fuck alone.

so even if you don't get the girl you at least make one AFC a very happy CHAMP for a night

Disregard if I interpreted this wrongly... but why do we have to look down on AFCs? My Dad is an AFC but he's still incredibly happy in his life. Who are you to look down on people like him?

Just because they aren't great with women doesn't mean they aren't happy people and that they can't do other things better than you. Stop looking down on them.

Often, the guys who get into the game are the guys who NEED IT MOST. Remember that.