You are in the following scenarios with the same chick. What do you believe is going on. How would you approach it. What tactics would you use. My friend asked me earlier and we argued about this for over an hour I told my friend yes she is interested, he said he doesn't think so. I decided to bring it here because I can't solve this alone.

You know girl(G) for over a year.

You met her and talked to her last year for a little. She had bf, you said bye bye.

She comes back around this year, this time she is on the rocks with the bf, never sees him, argues with him ect ect ect. You hang out about 2-3x a week for a few weeks building rapport and comfort with her.

Now that thats out of the way, here you go.

One day you are just chilling and her dad asks her if you want to stay for dinner. She says it in a manner that sounds like she doesn't even want you to stay so you say no thanks an leave. She gets mad. She WANTED you to stay.

Another day, you make her cry because you told her to make up her mind about shit, she cries and cries still texting/talking to you.

Day after, she invites you over for dinner but doesn't want to eat with her family and says she will bring you food. Yet her parents insist you go down there. Afterwards you 'test' her by grabbing at something. Such as her phone or ring or whatever and grab her hand to see if she holds back or whatnot and she matches yours. (i.e. she holds your hand till after you let go with an actual grip.) She does match you without even attempting to take it away.

SHE DOES HAVE THE BF THIS ENTIRE TIME.

Trying to help my friend out.

So far we know:

(1) She made it sound like she didn't want your friend to stay for dinner, but then it turned out she really wanted him to. SHE gets mad. In other words, you failed her test (which you would only pass by sucking up like a little puppy agreeing to stay for dinner), and she has the nerve to get mad on top of that.


(2) She has a boyfriend that she just wont let go of, yet she knows they don't get along anymore or should really be together. Shes on the rocks with him but shes spending time with your friend. Your friend probably told her to make up her mind about whether she wants to be with him or not. She cries, blah blah.


Sounds like she's attracted to your friend. The question is, why is your friend bothering with this girl? I personally wouldn't bother with this girl; she sounds highly unstable and indecisive. Why play with the sharks when you can play with the dolphins ?

I myself have been in a similar situation though. I started hooking up with a girl that was seeing (not officially bf/gf) an abusive jerk. I acted 15x more alpha than this kid was, and always treated her respectfully and PUA-like. I won her over and she realized how dumb it was that she even gave him the time of day. We're still dating after a year and it is still great.

However, in this situation it sounds like she's keeping your friend on the backpedal while she tries to figure things out with her current boyfriend. He needs to give her an ultimatum or she wont stop playing her manipulative mind-games; he's only fueling the fire. She has a boyfriend, and the power in the situation.

Sounds like he already has tried to though, and just made her cry get emotional about it. He can't keep spending time with her and not progressing; she'll get comfortable and consider him a friend. If I was your friend, I'd keep progressing our relationship until things got real hot and close. When things couldn't go further cause of her "bf", I'd give her an ultimatum and tell her to choose between him or me. I'd tell her that there is potential to be something great between us and don't want to just be friends. If done right, she'd pick me. Otherwise, this girl sounds like she isn't worth anymore of my time.

Make sure your friend isn't being AFC in the course of all this. To win her over, he needs to show her that he has other options, yet is still willing to give it a shot because he sees potential of it turning into something special.