So thanks to you all on the forums, I've improved my game to the point where I can #close more often than not. I can also hold their attention on the phone, make them laugh, and keep interest until we end up meeting up and going out.

My problem is that I'm struggling to make a first move. I go into AFC mode. I think my biggest problem is that I want the opening kiss to be a memorable, passionate one, and not something forced or awkward. So I wait...and wait...and I'm scared that I'll eventually get put into the friend zone. I'm fighting to stay out of it be keeping up kino/flirting and letting them know that I'm a sexual guy and not a ball-less sissy that wants to just listen to their problems.

Any ideas how to get out of this mindset or creative ways to start heavy physical contact? Thanks.

Just go for it by feeling. If the moment is right, just do it. Don't think about it. Thinking will only get you freaked out about it.

Maybe you could try starting up a friendly argument... and then while she is about to respond to you, just kiss her to shut her up.

and then you're in.

Escalation is key. You've already made the first move if you're engaging in kino. If you're touching her arm, you've made your first move. From there, make it a little more intense. Give her a nudge with your shoulder. Tell her she talks with her hands, then grab them to keep her from doing it (even if she doesn't talk with her hands; _especially_ if she doesn't talk with her hands). Use relate-reward cycles to build the sexual tension. When you've reached a comfortably high level of kino, go for the kiss. You can use one of Mystery's kiss-closes, or you can follow the 90-10 Kiss Rule (as stolen from Hitch).

The first kiss is never memorable. The fist kiss is always awkward and forced. So don't worry about it; just swallow your fear and go for it. As soon as you think "Should I go for the kiss?" I'm giving your three seconds to go for the kiss. That's it.

Persuasive's Brain: Should I go for the kiss?
Monkey on Your Back: Yes! Three seconds: GO!
Persuasive: Would you like to kiss me?

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-Monkey's Little Brother, Spud

Inner game comes in here champ... you're placing to much emphasis on the kiss, you're even putting an unrealistic image in your own head of the kiss. A memorable, passionate one... not gonna happen if you place that much of expectation on the kiss so completely eliminate this from your thinking, and have no expectations on the kiss, just consider it another step closer in seducing the girl. Sometimes the first kiss, will be awkward, but it will lead to a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th, etc. You just gotta set the wheels in motion...

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Experience is the teacher of all things - Julius Caesar

Go out and K-close heaps of times and get awesome at kissing.
THEN ALL THE KISSES WILL BE PASSIONATE AND MEMORABLE!!!!
*Giac Cackles evily*

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xx

Thanks! You're right, I'm putting an amazing amount of pressure on myself.