Been into the pua scene for a month or so now. Never really had trouble chatting to girls once I'm in, it was opening I had a problem with. Anyways been using the dogs opener a lot and it's blowing open practicaly every set I enter, I've been getting quite a few phone numbers. The trouble comes when I ring them they never answer or I get a text saying they are back with their ex. Which I know is just a lame excuse. I've been ringing about 2 days after getting their number where am I going wrong?

Create stronger attraction - "out of sight out of mind"

I say close the deal - go for number and date at once. Say something like "See ya on that beach I told you about, give me number so we could find
each other there "

Carpe Diem.

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You don't know the future, you can't change the past. The only thing that matters is THE CURRENT MOMENT.

i have experienced the same problem, I guess you close to fast, make them ask for your number if you can.

"To bad! I have to go allready, we had alot to talk about, maybe we will meet in the next life"

If you have created a connection she should say something like "why dont you call me?"

But build up a feeling of connection and be aware of the risk of her smply saying "yeah"

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Come see conquer, or some1 else will

Your going very wrong in the first stages. I think you asked for their number to early, without demonstrating any value. You probably even made them feel like all you wanted was the number, and that turned them off.

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Back, starting over as of 2012.

You're going wrong just about since the beginning.

I'll make you realize something quickly, and if you don't realize it now, then I dont know when will you

"The number is just an obstacle between you and her"

Example:
Write down your number here, (she does)
BUT, she is thinking "I'll give him my number (if even the right one) just not to be rude, but I won't pick up"

Don't believe me, ask a girl, does this happen?, she will laugh.

You see, dating is not about getting the number, is about making her feel attraction. Your problem isn't "not knowing how to follow", your problem is you "not knowing how to start".

If you get her to either fantasize, or get excited about seeing you again, then the number comes out of the blue.

Example:

She in her mind is thinking: "Oh my god, this guy is so 'interesting, fun, good looking, confident, great conversationalist, etc', I want to see him again"

You say "I have great plans for us, we are gonna pretend we are a couple, then pretend we are in a fight, let you flirt with an innocent guy, and then we reconciliate right there, and accuse the guy of hitting on you, we are gonna go to the beach, and of course I'll cover you with sand, we are going to starbucks, and of course you will pay, etc etc"
She says "That all sounds really fun, except that I have no clue how to get a hold of you" or she offers her number, or she simply says "yea, that will be fun", then you tell her, write down your number

You see what I mean? Numbers are not that important, in occasions I meet someone, and I don't ask for the number, I just say "Let's go walk around", or "Let's grab a bit to eat, I'll let you pay", I think you get the idea

The number is not the great deal, so STOP ACTING LIKE IT

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Definitely some good points there Romeo, I didn't think of it like that. I think I have been approaching things from slightly the wrong angle. I'll take that on board!