I was jsut stood at the bar not out to sarge or anything (the big plan was ot try and get to go out with a girl I have been working on after yesterdays massive breakdown) and yet I felt the need to approach this girl and so I fucked the 3 second rule and she looked at me like the anti-christ I then said "man you look fucking terrified... and I don't blame you in theory the average girl gets approached 4500 times between the age of 18 and 20 (my maths was awful but the point was there). I then said this is why women develop a bitch shield. I then said to her how often do you get assholes open with did it hurt? she finished the chat up line before I did , I was like exactly and then told her I thought it was fucking hilarious sitting and watching these beefed up testosterone guys hit on women and go from alpha male to little boy in 10 seconds.

Even now not sure why I spoke to her but if it wasn't for my lack of disabling obstacles I think I would have at bare minimum number closed.

also i think I am coming towards a good point in my life, I have started to realize how scripted things just equal you running out of shit to say because it is not your story, people need to see FR's as examples rather than guides and need to know what they want. Also I think there should be a stickied thread that literally says if you can't talk to an old lady or group or lads you will never speak to a HB10.

Basically I have realised I need to be an approach artist before I can start even thinking about being a pick-up artist

This is exactly true. You need to be able to approach a girl and have her interested in what you are saying, and have her laughing, for a good 5 minutes or so, and you need to be able to do this consistently before you can think about your day 2's. Although getting a number or two won't hurt, and then you can excersize your phone game and if you do get a day 2 then you might get a bit of a shock when you are terrible at it, but at least you get a sneak peek. They say you should go 20% further than you know each time you go into an interaction. It is good advice, and if you are having a bit of a crash course, as I seem to do, then you should probably go about 50% further, even do things that you are pretty sure you shouldn't do, like re-entering a set after leaving and negging too much, even in sets that are going well. I am heading south for a few months, so I am getting a crash course down there and I'll be hammering myself. Hopefully when I get back I will be a lot better at day 2's, that's my weak point, as well as phone game and anything beyond those two.

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