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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:19 am 
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Values are your biggest weapons after attraction/rapport is set. Do not bend your values and adjust yourself (and values) to create a commonality between you and your target. Even if you have a completely opposite view do not agree or change your values. I will go deeper into why.

A girl's value isn't actually worth bending to. A girl's values will always change, like her emotions. So stick to yours. You can bend the girls values to accustom yours. You must remain solid on your values and if you come off strong enough after rapport, she will slowly do what you value to win you over. It's not that you are bending her to your will, a girls values just aren't very strong. Religion, friends, family, these are all sources for her values. If can make yourself more important and become better, more important (and more exciting) than these sources for her value-you can indeed change her values to yours.

Thing of disagreement on values as a shit test. But you will win by not changing them. If she wants you bad enough, she will change hers. Be sure to reward her when she does change them. For example, the girl thinks the guy should always pay for dates. You don't think thats fair. So she changes her value and pays for your dinner. Now reward her by paying for the movie ticket. This is a simple example.

Now the problem comes in making her want you bad enough to change your values, right? Wrong. Your frame takes control of this. After the hooking point, begin sharing some of your values. Let her know from the start what you value. Who cares what she values, don't bother asking. If she talks just nod your head. The least you can do is show a little respect. This will create a "Chain of command" on your part and she will indeed slowly work for you by adjusting herself to your values.

Make sure you don't change your own values after you let her know what they are. This will make you spineless and beta. Best of luck on deepening relationships with women.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:17 am 
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I agree with you on that you should not change your values, but your post leads to a Catch 22 situation. Because what if one of your values is not to change the values of the girl your targeting? Also what makes you think girls can't stick to their own values just as well as a guy can?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:07 am 
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Girls will not stick to their values If you do it right. I have yet to meet a girl that will stick to her values. At least the values that come to sex, which is a PUA's main value target. You aren't destroying her values, you are bending them to yours. All those girls that say they won't ever cheat on their boyfriends? Guess what, I fucked them. I ruined too many LTRs to say its false.

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If your value is not to change a girls values then you cannot tell her your values. Because if you have a solid frame she will eventually bend her values to yours (after you state your values). It is a natural process. So if you choose to not change her values, then don't state your values and DLV. If you have awesome game I'm sure there are ways to make up for this. Your question was the Catch 22.

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