Okay so I was doing my daily "take notes on pick up" thing and I made this conclusion:
So Mystery and many other PUAs say that one must make the girl as if she's slowly winning you over.
Well, how long is that going to take if you set frame that you see her as a stranger?
My thoughts on this are that right from the start, set frames that you and her are veryy close friends!!!
You know, you love her. But in a best friend, sister-ish kind of way.
Not a complete stranger who annoys you. Too much there.
So now, you bareellyy have to make her win you over.
Also, this is great because you can give back what you were given with the "LJBF" zone from women.
Now SHE'S the best friend who has a crush on YOU.
Now YOU have the upper hand.

So now it's YOUR job to make sure that in her eyes, she won you over from a being just a friend to a partner.

Fin.

do you really want to be close to her in a sister-ish kind of way?

This is something Juggler method covers.

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Hey, it's how girls used to see us when we were AFCs.
This is just giving them a taste of their own stuff.

And unfortunately, I haven't looked into Juggler lately.
I haven't been looking into anyone lately

But yeah, I just thought I'd share with everyone since this seemed soo helpful.

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There is a routine mystery taught to a few people which involves treating the target exactly like your little sister early on.

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Note to self: Reffering to Chief by something other than his name has the knock on effect of strolling into the chat room and being asked; 'Crumpetberry are you a single hippie looking for a man'

David X does this too.

If you act like you already know her and drop "I love you's", "Let's get married tomorrow!", "High five kiddo" ect. You build an instant rapport with her. Her brain won't register that you are actually a stranger. Downside is building attraction will be a lot harder.

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I have a lot of learning to do haha

Hey guys!! What's a stranger?? I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the term now. xD

And what does it mean when the women have the upper hand?? It doesn't register in my mind.

Or hey!! When some people say that females are scary, are they talking about girl vampires??

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Also these could be GREAT openers. hahahaha

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You might as well open with "Hey, who are you?"

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or for this one You might as well go with:
Hi you're below me, hows it going?

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Note to self: Reffering to Chief by something other than his name has the knock on effect of strolling into the chat room and being asked; 'Crumpetberry are you a single hippie looking for a man'

To me this seems like you'd be building too much comfort before building any attraction, thus placing yourself dangerously close to the LJBF zone... But field test it and let us know how it goes

Ohh already havee bro. (:
This works fantastically for girls who are "friends of friends". Or girls who are inside your "group" but you don't know her that well.

Also, it works great right after hooking.

Mystery once said, "Treat them like the little girls they are." (I got this from a signature of a forum member, forgot who.)
Which is sooo true.

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This is best used after an initial attraction has been gained, by no means would it be used to open. 'Hey you're my little sister' is not going to get the right result without recovery unless you are good with direct game. It builds comfort and cements familiarity in the attraction. It also acts as a false disqualifier as you wouldnt hit on your little sister now would you.
I used this for a bit a while back and it got good results.

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Note to self: Reffering to Chief by something other than his name has the knock on effect of strolling into the chat room and being asked; 'Crumpetberry are you a single hippie looking for a man'

This is something I saw in a movie, I have tried it once it actuly worked so if your looking to score check it out. Its very close to the rules of the game, its called the Tao Of Steve
The Tao Of steve fallows three basic rules
1. Eliminate your desire.
2. Be excellent in their presence.
3. Retreat or be fleeting.

The link below gose more into depth

http://melfabro.wordpress.com/2008/06/1 ... -of-steve/

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Same with Gunwitch Method. He calls it "assuming rapport."

I'm pretty sure David Deangelo teaches this stuff, too.

It's always better to discover this stuff from your own experiences, though. That solidifies the reality.