It has been said that logistics are an integral part to a fuck-close pickup. The issue i would like to discuss is whether or not to escalate her sexual excitement before extracting her to a place where we can have sex.

Background info: Originally picked up HB9 in a club, made her come while dancing, almost dropped off at her place but as she was leaving the car i got her to come with me to my place and we fucked.

Description of relevant situation: She works in the video industry and was away for a month doing shoots in Los Angeles. Upon her return, i picked her up & she took me out to dinner and then we walked on the beach. On a hotel's beach chair we made out and i proceeded to make her very wet while avoiding directly stimulating her crotch so she wouldn't climax. My intention was to excite her uncontrollably and then drive to my place ("watch a movie, listen to music, cook, check out the newest album from her favorite music genre, etc")

So we drove towards her place, which is along the way back to my place. It's 10.30pm already. I suggest we come to my place (see aforementioned bait)
The reason she cited for turning down the offer was that she doesnt want to wake up early (we would have to leave the house 6.30am) and to not make me drive that far and back early in the morning (it's 20 minutes each way), especially since after that i have a 40-mile commute on top of that.

Now, my evenings are planned out Wednesday through Sunday. I told her that night (Tuesday) was the best night to catch me. She said to pick her up Sunday night (she has no car yet). I was pretty disappointed & didn't even respond or say bye. Regardless, my feeling is that if i'm not worth 20 minutes of someone's time, then i take it very personally. In fact, its a huge turn-off, and i don't even feel attracted to her anymore at the moment.

Miscellaneous info: i know she wants to fuck me (hell, she wanted to do it on the beach but i declined). She often asks questions that imply her propensity towards a LTR. I know she brags about me to her industry girl friends. & we couldn't fuck at her place because she is staying with someone for the moment.


The bottom line is that based on this experience, i would say that getting a girl very sexually excited & THEN taking her home is much more prone to failure than taking her home and THEN stimulating her to get excited & horny.

What thinks you?

Very true. Im not going to call her a slut or anything....

But most girls wont be so secure with that.... I don't think they will, but hey im only 16, what do i know?

YOUR THE ONE WHO LAID A PORN STAR Very nice!!!!

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Continue pursuit, methinks.

She blatently wants it; just clear a space in the diary for her, make her to the same so that she can "slip you in" sometime mutually convenient.

Patience, dude.

Thanks, but just to clarify, i would like to reiterate that the question i would like to discuss is a general one: whether or not you should escalate sexual arousement before leaving to a place where you can have sex.

The idea behind doing it BEFORE is to make her want you more and to make her want to come with you more. Presumably, if she wants you sooo bad, how could she refuse....
On the other hand, the idea of doing it AFTER is to avoid premature buyer's remorse or implied LMR before even the situation warrants either one.

Or have i ignored the possibility that i had not excited her enough before extraction?

I would say that you should be sexually exiting her, while careful not to imply intentions of having sex with her. Tease her. Make escalation seem spontanious. Dont escalate too far before "extract" her. Perhaps she knows it will be a possibility but her conscience wont deter her from her real craving.

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I'd go with this way.

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