Reminds me of David X a little. I much prefer to be direct and it works wonders - during the day aswell as in clubs. It's all about living in your own reality and not giving a shit about what people think about you... mind you, it won't work for everyone because it may not tie in properly with their personality, or if they don't feel comfortable or confident enough to pull it off. I feel it's important to pick out bits and pieces from different methods which really hit home with you and piece it all together to develop your own style.

wow, great stuff!
and timely... i wish i could ask this guy a question regarding my current situation.
i think i'll pick up that book at least

That's exactly what I like. I don't disrespect the indirect guys (I strongly dislike the "gurus" themselves for various reasons). The methods do work and I will often genuinley tell people if they're content with indirect to stick with it. If someone is happier using indrect and routines it's their choice. I know people who have used direct openers then went into A3 as well as people who slowly weeded themselves off routines and even some who are completely honest buy have lines and clever comments ready to be thrown in at any time.

The one thing I am TOTALLY against is negs unless the girl give you blatant disrespect I don't believe a guy should go out of his way to take shots at a woman's self-esteem nor in my experience do they need to.

Personally I find it clunky and cumbersome to deal with. I don't see how being honest and natural couldn't tie with anyone; I wasn't originally comfortable or confident enough to pull direct off and part of becoming a more naturally confident person was about getting over that and making direct work with myself.

I like the advocation of solid inner game, honesty, directness and confidence and the idea that if I'm going to get blown of or boyfriended that It will be done in a matter of seconds and can move on. Moreover, the relationship starts off on honesty, confidence and directness which women respect.

It's not my place to say what's best; everyone's different and has different needs and goals but everyone should everything a chance.

- Chris

the problem i have with indirect is it feels incongruent
believe me, most girls are quite intuitive and they know you're approaching them because you're interested, so why beat around the bush?

i still open indirect most of the time, but try to drop an SOI relatively quickly.

The problem is that now that the original revolutionaries in the community totally advocate a different view; everyone in the community seems to be all about hiding their intentions and pretending to be someone their not. If people like that it's well and good and people have a right to make their own choices and judgements and direct game advocats the total opposite.

The other "instructors" who claim othervise do that cause they are not able to pull it off, they are ferful of thinking of it especially if they know they won't be able to teach $6000 boot camps if people do.

That's the whole idea. I don't think I have talked to an attractive girl who didn't know a man was interested in her; guys want their bodies it is nature's way. The reason M3 works is because the guy asks her for an opinion, negs and disqualifies himeslf and works from there to wait and see if she is interested, if his game is tight enough, if she has a gf, ect. With direct you know right away and can move on if she's not interested. Plus afterward you have to worry about "how long should I wait to call?", "Should I neg here?", "Should I have flirted with that other girl in front of her?". I perfer do whatever the fuck is natural for you and just keep living life.

For those who call it AFC techinque, I haven't met an AFC yet who can walk up to a woman confidently as an alpha male and set off her attraction triggers. Many AFCs follow this up with cat calls or interview questions or anything which conveys they are not confident and respectful of her. The PUA way of direct is to show interest in a woman's beauty while showing it intrigued you to learn more and find out if she is worth appreciating as a person which appeals to the woman.

I have also heard theories (not mine personally nor am I saying their right) that indirect PUAs are AFCs with techniques who try to spare their confidence and avoid rejection as much as possible and indirect ensures that they don't have to do the ballsiest possible thing and can blanket their attraction and interest. Many women have told me that no man has had the confidence and respect to approach them as I have done and that is what attracted them to me.

- Chris