my girlfriend of 5 months threatens me with no sex for 3 month in order to prove my love for her. she thinks im in the relationship just for sex and that i dont love her enough (in other words, i dont supplicate to her conditions).

any suggestion guys

I'd explain to her that physical intimacy is just as important to me as the emotional closeness she seeks is to her. We can find ways to make sure she is satisfied and getting what she needs from the relationship but if she isn't willing to express her emotions (through sex) then I'm not getting what I need and the relationship isn't going to work.

This way you've turned the tables on her. You are willing to discuss the problem, but you aren't willing to simply accept her conditions. She either has to be mature enough to see your side or she looks like an ass and the relationship falls apart because she's stubborn and selfish.

Don't compromise on something that you really want. You are a HIGH VALUE male, you take what you want and if you aren't getting it you change your situation to enable you to procure it.

I don't mean to seem like an ass...but I don't see the problem. Just say "okay" and act as if it doesn't affect you. She won't last 3 months.

Waffles right

Also it seems I would guess that you ahve been initating a lot of sex I bet you would say maybe all it in your relationship. Maybe you also have noticed she seems less and less into sex when you guys hook up and you might have began to notice that after 2 or so months into your relationship.

Girls like 3 things in relationships and in general: Challenge, Confidence and Self Control. Stop chasing her and let her initate some sex it will drive her crazy nothing drives a girl crazier then wanting a guy and you not initiating it, esepcially when you have already slept together and are dating. I remember this one girl who I used to date from Miami told me the hottest thing a guy ever did was the first date they made out and the 2nd date at the end he just gave her a kiss ont he cheek and said he had a good time and left. She said she wanted to fuck him soo badly by the time the 3rd date came around. When you don't act like you want it and as if you could care less if you get it girls want you more. Its the entire premise of everything on these forums, neg, DHV, freeze outs, ...

Girls want it more when you don't show it to them and smother them with it so always in relationships makesure the initiation of sex is equal if anything have her initaitng it more. Don't appear needy and act as if you could care less if you hook up. Go jerk off int he bathroom if you have to whatever gets you through but in a long term relationship ESPECIALLY if she is not initating sex with you as much and appears disinterested you gotta stop initiating it. Think of it as a freeze out becuase in essance its the same principle.

Remember sex = barometer for how the relationship si going in her eyes.


Do what waffle says, and don't appear needy or try to initiate anything.

This is true, always get intimate but tease her constantly. This girl I was seeing did the same thing, she didn't last a week. She suggested we stop having sex for a bit and I agreed and acted like it's what I wanted.
When we'd hang out, I'd get her turned on and tease her constantly and wait for her to make smaller moves then I'd do the same thing and it'd just escalate.

Either do that or explain how you need to be physically, emotionally and mentally satisfied in a relationship, and that sex isn't just want you want, it just happens naturally.

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that's exactly the problem, because the fact that im in the seduction community, i dont act AFCish, i dont supplicate to this woman i dont buy her flower and cholocate, i sometimes dont return her text. i cancel dating once in a while. she told im the first guy that treat her "shit" and that i make her sad, she says i dont care about her enough. btw i took her virginity.

pretty much, she wants me to act more like an afc coz that's something shes used to or she not laying me.

Take her out, flirt with some other girls in front of her, make her jealous. Let her know you could get anyone else. Hang out with female friends more while she is around. When you want sex, build her up with push/pull. Also if sex is what you want, and she isn't putting out, get a new girl.

WRong wrong wrong, well the get a new girl part at the end isn't. This only works if you became afc and chased her and thats why she is dumping you or wants a break or wahtever or if you just met her and you want to build up social value and DHV.

You've treated this girl like shit and now she doesn't feel she wants to stand for it. No girl would.

Look its called PICK UP Artist for a reason, girls are attracted to alpha male and it initlaly gets the girl but it doesn't keep the girl. Being hardcore meathead NO NO NO does not keep a girl also being hardcore YES YES YES does not keep a girl (AFC). You have a be a gentleman in the middle sometimes yes sometimes no.

Girls no matter waht age are NOT going to stay with someone who treats them like shit especially hot girls who have lots of options. Your right the nice guys do NOT get the girl and the asshole will initlaly but he will lose her and then he will get AFC and chase her and still lose her.

You got into this game to pick up chicks and these rules work GREAT for PICKING up chicks but these are NOT the rules to keep girls, some of the theories are but if you want to keep a girl you HAVE to show her 3 qualities: Affection, ROmance, and respect. During this you must still remain a challenge (By saying NO every once in a while), by being confident (The Game) and by having self control (Not chasing her for sex, letting her chase you to initate it, by not showing her if your jealous, ...)

The point of the game here is to meet girls nad hook up to find "The One". Girls look for fun, outgoing, confident, nice guys who treat them well. That is what they want in a realtionship, ask any girl you want. Yes your right nice guys won't get the girl, because they aren't a challenge and you do need to be alpha even within the relationship but you still need to treat her nice and like a person and respect her while still being cocky funny and confident.

It sounds like a lot but just try this if you get nothing else out of it. DO everything exactly how you were doing by being a dick and alpha, after the first 3 months with a new girl take her out on a date. Try to take her out on one date a month and get her a little gift every 6 weeks, just something small like flowers or something. Thats it, continue being a dick but just do thsoe 2 things and see what it does for you with keeping girls around.

Relationships are a game too and they have different rules then pick-up.

Well, just because you are a PUA, doesn't mean you have to be an asshole, there's a fine line, just as with cocky/funny you can go over the line and you need to calibrate for that. You've been with her for 5 months and if you're not just seeing her casually, then maybe you SHOULD buy her something nice once in while, show her you're thinking of her, it's really not a bad thing to do. The reason why we say, "Don't buy her flowers and dinner," is because so many guys think that's how you win a girl's heart, but it's not, it's how you keep it. Just like you want her to treat you well and show you affection by wearing something sexy now and then, doing something special for you, you need to do the same to her. Don't treat her like shit, just don't supplicate.

As far as the issue of the sex goes though, Zig is the man here and said exactly what I was gonna say. Let her know that sex is part of what you need in a healthy relationship and if she thinks that having a relationship without sex is gonna prove your love to her, then she's wrong, cause that's just gonna make you think that she wants to control you. You need to let her know that although she wants to feel appreciated, loved and respected, you need to feel those things too, sexual intimacy is how you express some of those things and you need the same back from her. If she wants to improve parts of the relationship, then don't do it by ruining other parts, do it by working together to achieve the desire results. Be mature about it and do it in such a way that she is forced to be mature and reasonable about it too, so that if she isn't, like Zig said, she'll be the one that is screwing things up and looking like the bad guy.

Once you're in a relationship, you still have to run game, but it's different than picking up, you have to realise that, you have to understand that there's much more emotional intimacy and attachment, just don't get TOO deep and too attached before it's time, or you'll come off as needy and such. At this point, she is looking for that though, so you have to give her some, otherwise you're not gonna be able to hold it together.

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First of all, there is no such thing as right or wrong, just opinions. Second, how old are you? I am 21 and relationships are too much work. I have college, training, and friends to deal with. Oh, and xbox live. Christ that takes up a lot of time, anyhow, why are you even worried about it if you have only been with her for a few months. The other posts were right about how to treat her if you want to keep her; personally though if a girl gets to be enough work that what I recommended earlier doesn't work, I drop her.

That's just a different context of a relationship. Most girls that value themselves won't put up with that and will only take it as you being disrespectful and end up breaking up with you for being a sleazy jerk.

That's if you're in a serious relationship with them of course. If you're not, then yeah, it'll push their buttons, but at the same time, a girl that isn't in a serious relationship doesn't have the power to pull the "no sex move" on a guy, because it's easy for him to move on and she knows that.

He's been in a lasting relationship, it's a different context, so your advice isn't really applicable unless she's low self esteem, low value, in which case, she's not gonna have the strength of will to pull something like this on him for long and it would be easy to get her to go back on it just by getting her horny and making a move, as she won't have the will to resist.

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You can actually be a nice guy. Just don't be a weak one. You can't just make her chase you all the time for nothing. So what if you leave a rose on the pillow for her once in a while. These romantic "AFC" things do have their place and to forget them all together turns you mildly retarded as far as a relationship goes.

Meh, I'd just drop her. If she's going to threaten me with something and not say what she actually wants, I don't want to be around her. Actually, if she's going to threaten me with anything, for any reason, I don't want her around.

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Just cause she isn't as socially apt as you? Maybe try to help her to actualize what she is trying to do, in a healthy manner though. Not everyone is where you are now and sometimes you need to be understanding of that. Not meaning you pander to them, but you try to work it out and if THAT doesn't work, THEN you can scrap the relationship.

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Well, you could talk to her friend Tiffany to help get the situation resolved. If that doesn't work, try her other friends Kay, Jaclyn, Belden, Zales, or Whitehall. If you've never met any of them, you probably don't have a girlfriend.

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