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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:27 am 
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Hey guys i was just going through the NLP section and reading some pattern. I then started to think about how thorougly this pattern was probably thought out to produce a specific outcome. Same applies to DHVs, conversational topics, body language, kino escalation, cocky funny comments, etc.

I basically wake up in the morning and although i don't make many cold approaches(go to the mall once in awhile with a friend to just open girls, only twice so far and no real success). Although i'm now able to tell pretty quickly whether a girl is interested or not...it's usually girls that i would have in the bag no matter what i did so i discredit that. On the other hand when it's girls i can actually envision myself hooking up with, even if i can tell they are initally(physically attracted to me) my conversational skills are usually not top notch....once in a blue moon they are.

I really DON'T spend time thinking up DHV stories...think about intriguing conversational topics beforehand...canned openers...cocky funny lines...ways of initating kino etc. I really just kinda go with the flow...and if some subject of which i can relate/know about comes up...i can then naturally talk about it. Same goes with DHV stories...if the question doesn't arise "what's the craziest thing you've ever done?" for example...i wouldn't even mention it.

Do you guys who are successful at some point in time THOROUGLY thought out DHV/patterns/cocky funny/conversational topics of which you can bust out through a given interaction...or do you just kind of have random shit in your head that you may or may not think if saying at any given time? I go through my days as normal but don't dwell on getting specifics done. (how to tell a story/sexual words to use/etc)

My question again is...is it a MUST to actively go through interesting conversational topics/DHV stories/etc so you have them in your repertoire or just live life as is and if a chance for a DHV comes up, THEN say it? Have i been going about this PUA all wrong and is this why my success rate hasn't drastically improved? Thank you for reading and this is something that i think may be a BIG deal. Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:36 am 
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One thing. Inner game man.


This is from a very special book, copied and pasted.
1) You have to have the belief that this is the best
thing she will ever experience in her life.
2) You have to have the belief that no other person
can give this kind of experience to her the way you can.
3) You have to believe that you can do this.
4) You have to believe that it works – beyond any
doubt, hesitation, or question.
5) You have to believe that she will think that both
you and what you’re doing is amazing.
6) You have to believe that it’s normal for you to
be able to give a woman this kind of experience.
7) You have to believe that if given the place,
time, and situation, you will be able to do this and evoke
unbelievable results in ANY woman you want to, and you must do
it without apology, hesitation, or question.

Don't be AFC. Don't fucking think shes a whore. Use her to get to others. I took some slut, treated her like a lady (david X) and then used her to introduce me to her friend who was hotter and less of a slut, then while the girl is on my arm i said "Thanks." and pushed her off.

You don't need anything. You dont need DHV, you dont need C&F.

All you need to do is read what you can here and go out. Make up your own shit, be the new mystery. If you want you CAN use the MM, try some canned openers, I use them all the time, spells FTW and the cube, but then im just myself.

Trust me, you'll be the best guy out there if you have confidence.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:03 am 
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This is where i don't understand what i'm doing wrong.

i FEEL confident...my body language has gotten to the point where i'm more COMFORTABLE in an alpha male posture compared to when it would feel odd.

Every time i look in the mirror i'm happy about my physical appearance...to the point where if i'm talking(gaming) to a girl that honestly i wouldn't consider to be at my level(cocky..w/e) and i at times will actually think that i'm good enough to just smile and act however i do and assume she'd melt into my arms. Sometimes it goes that way...but sometimes is..it doesn't. Point is....i will be FEELING confident/alpha in their presence...but it doesn't seem to have much of an effect. So when these situations occur, i have no idea what i'm doing wrong. The only answer i can come up with is "outer game" and being an entertaining monkey with fun gambits up my sleave(which i personally don't like). If it's all about inner game...and times where i'm feeling like THE SHIT....how come there's little to no impact?

I have to add and i've mentioned before.... i have a stuttering problem so this can be interpreted as weird/nervous....but these are times where i'll blatantly stutter/block and not give a shit about it and continue maintaining my BL/eye contact/conversational thread...so i literally brush it off and continue with my statement.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:43 pm 
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So besides for having the mentality of "i am the shit"...alpha body language...strong eye contact.

Do you guys have pre planned DHV stories that you spontaniously bring up during an interaction..or if you feel things are going south? Or do you just say whatever is on your mind? Also..pre arranged "opinion" questions...etc.


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