After singing training, regular yoga, posture correction, working out and exercising a lot, my voice is not loud enough to be heard by a girl in just about any environment where there is music. I can yell in her ear with my hands cupped around her ear but that fails every time because if I am not getting "what?" I am invading her personal space/comfort since it is too soon. This even affects my male friendships and when we go out, I cannot contribute to any conversation (inside) and cannot wing very well for the same reason. I quit cigarettes a year ago in hopes of increasing my lung capacity and it has helped but not by much.

Anyone know a possible solution other than rock the day game? (which I do). I literally had 2 hot women come up to me at the bar introduce themselves and both tell me they think I am cute. The next thing they said was WHAT? WHAT again. and again. Could have had a threesome. So frustrating!!

have like premade texts that tells them of your condition. Try to have your body language do the talking. Probably a good excuse to exchange numbers and have like a text convo right then and there. Obviously you look up when she talks to you. It might work in your favor honestly. She will seduce herself if she is the one doing the talking. After awhile you can even take them to the dance floor. You don't need your voice for that.


Now this is just a suggestion. I am trying to brainstorm here for you.

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That is some rad advice. Transitions really well and its creative. Hopefully she would give it a chance if not if I see her outside later I can tell her why I was doing that and rebreak the ice. Maybe pretend to be foreign and not know the language and then jokingly but confidently break the news once we are in a spot that she can hear me. Maybe a picture album with a quick caption/story for each picture that leads to a cliff hanger where she follows me to the next transition. Then take a picture of the 2 of us doing something like a funny face or something specific, ask her to write a caption, if she cant, then make one myself and send her the picture after so she sees it by the texts.

Trying to be optimistic and positive about this, very difficult when something so essential for night game and life is not up to par.

Just keep going.

I had the same problem when I first started nightclub pick up. I really wasn't used to the environment and the loud music really put me off because all of my success with girls prior, I had developed a style of seduction where I was always being very smooth talking and the loudest music I'd had was at house parties or just playing in the background during sex, which is very different to a booming club.

I made all the same mistakes... shouting into her ear, not interpreting what she was saying properly and responding with "whhaat", and just genuinely getting pissed off that I couldn't hear fuck all over the music. I didn't get good in nightclubs for a while because it was a whole different playing field to me and it require a complete skillset. Tackling the clubs has been one of the hardest things I've done in the development of my game so far.

Anyway... I just got used to it. After a while I felt like going to clubs was like chilling in my living room. The loud music actually seemed to fade into the background and once your mind adapts it is actually possible to have a full blown conversation in a club. I think our minds focus on what they want to focus on. So if you're fully engaged in speaking to a girl and she is engaged in you too. Everything else will go to the background of your consciousness and you will focus in on your own little bubble. This is where you want to be.

Non verbals and body language are obviously a huge part too. If you project confidence and sexuality when you're speaking to her. She will pick up on this feeling and even if she doesn't catch what you're saying. It won't matter because she will be picking up on the vibes your giving across to her. It's possible to get a girl out of a club without even saying much if you're using sub communication to your advantage.

So just keep going out man. It's not impossible at all. You will get some of the best sex and hottest dressed girls from nightclubs. Experience is key. Make it a weekly priority and you will see the results if you stick at it.
What was your response that made them say WHAT?

Thanks for the advice
What I SHOULD have said was something like I cant tell which one of you is cuter, The hotter one would probably would have wanted me more for saying that, and then I could talk to the less cute girl with aim at the hotter one. Then ask how they know each other get them to talk and just listen. From there, I dont know!

What I DID say was Thank you, you are both pretty cute yourselves. they said thanks. This is my first time here, is this where the cool people stand? Terrible thing to say I know... I was caught off guard and just got into the bar about 2 minutes prior dead sober. First night in California. Then a few other girls came up to me as well, one put her arm around mine and another girl clearly brushed her huge tits against my arm and looked at me. It was my first night there and I was just in SHOCK. I have never ever had anything like that happen to me before (from CT) and I got super excited that maybe CA girls dig me more than other places, or they are more slutty (which they are). Well after that night, no girl has approached me even once and the looks I was getting that first day has had me in such confusion
Makes me think that coming in with that curious confidence of first day of my new location had some kind of effect that drew women in (I did not get laid that night, I was just trying to have fun and I did). Figured it would be easy forever from that point, like I reached the promised land of puss. Hasnt happened since! not even one girl has make an IOI to me without me putting in some effort, so I have to really think about what was going on that day vs others.
I was vibing really well with my new roomates and i guess they caught onto it? So weird. I wish that would happen all the time... I was also with a guy who is an actor/model so maybe we were a good looking crew or something.

You are thinking too much.

All you have to do is lean back. Look away from them nonchalantly. Look back at them and give them a smile. Then see what the reaction is.

One option is to bring them to a more quiet part of the venue. Not sure about your area, but most of the bars and clubs where I'm at have either patios or roof decks.

Another option is quieter venues in general.

Best way I can describe how I do voice projection is to speak from the gut, like i would imagine when singing, as opposed to from the throat, like most people do when they yell.