Review: Glenn P bootcamp (Brad P Underground Dating Seminar)



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:24 pm 
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(Warning: This is a long post. If you want the short review read the first & last paragraph)

This is my Glenn P bootcamp (Brad P Underground Dating Seminar) in NYC from this past weekend review. It ran from March7th-March 9th. I actually ended up getting a same night lay for the first time during the bootcamp. Not only that, but it was with an attractive blonde who paid $400 for the room and bought 3 rounds of drinks. Another guy from the bootcamp also got laid with her friend that night. She asked me to bring one along for her friend and I figured who better than a guy who just did 40 approaches that day. It wasn’t even something I was thinking about going in since my main goal was just to learn and have successful sets, and I was also staying in the area at my parents house for the weekend. I think the bootcamp with Glenn was pretty amazing and offered me exactly what I need to get better and maybe even become great with a lot of hard work. I would recommend it to anyone looking for a great experience and to up their game quick.

I have been doing pickup for about 2 ½ months now. Sarging Fri & Sat, but recently upped it to Thursday night as well in Philly. I got up to a certain point and then just hit the wall. Getting attraction but then always blowing out.

The only reason I ended up choosing Brad P’s Underground Dating Seminar was because it fit into my budget (though as word leaks I am sure the prices will keep rising), it was in NYC, it was during my spring break, and I heard good things about Brad P though I didn’t really know anything about his style or him. I never heard of Glenn P at all so I was somewhat reluctant to sign up, but he was supposedly Brad P’s best student and the other factors matched up for me so I decided to go with him. After I signed up and told people, I found out that Glenn P had spoken at a Philly Lair meeting a few back before I even knew about the Pick up world, and everyone said he was a really cool guy with a ton of great knowledge of this so it made me feel better. A really cool young guy also coached us over the weekend named Hyper who is really punk rock and an all around good guy.

Something I really liked about this bootcamp was that basically almost all of the class time was used on things that you had to be physically present working with the coaches on. They sent 12 cds prior to the bootcamp with brad p on it that basically went over theory, so time does not have to be used on seminar type stuff that you don’t need a real life coach for. The things we focused on the first night were vocals, walking, posture, body language, delivering openers & stories ect. and they critiqued us until we got it right.

We went out at 10 the first night, and Glenn & Hyper’s coaching was helpful on the spot so I could see my mistakes right there and begin putting together the puzzle of what was wrong. At the end of the night Glenn told me he thought he had me figured out and that the next day he would give me his conclusion about my game and suggest changes I make. I would go into each set but it would take forever and most of my sets that night hooked and blew out like usual so it was not all that significant though the stuff we worked on earlier in the night really helped and I saw improvements in each set as the night went on and they gave me guidance as to what I was doing wrong.

The next day it was 3 more hours of class time all related to things we actually had to be there for. Glenn did a great job of really evaluating my game and diagnosing my problems, which were that I don’t get the girl to contribute, don’t flow into enough normal conversations outside of routines, neg and go cocky funny a lot after the girl is already attracted, and don’t show enough interest or qualify properly. They have some unique takes and methods on showing interest, qualifying, and getting the girl to contribute more that I did not come across anywhere else in all the systems I read. If they did then they didn’t translate to me in this way. The thing about receiving this feedback was that it was like a light bulb switch went off in my head and I could see how these issues were messing up my game but understanding what your problems are is ½ the battle. Its not easy to just go out there and automatically master your issues.

Throughout the day we stayed in field for most of the time running day game. I opened everything from a pure 10 to 8s. They told us we had to do a minimum of 20 approaches or we couldn’t go home. I must have done 30+, and one guy was told to do 20 in 60 minutes to help him with his approach anxiety. I got better and better with each set and Glenn & Hyper kept working to reinforce my problem areas. As the day went on my sets got longer and I was able to turn them into more natural conversations. I ended up # closing a girl at virgin records who was an 8 and took it as a victory.

After the # close we went back over to the shoe store to meet up with Glenn before we went to the bookstore to do some exercises. He was standing outside looking through the glass and spotted a blonde who was attractive and seemed to have a great rack though they were covered pretty well. (I later found out that night they were pretty much perfect). I had some anxiety and told Glenn she was probably opened a bunch of times already with the same lines I had. He told me it didn’t matter and to just go get her number and he gave me specific instructions going in. One being to run no more than 1 routine after the opener among other instructions to address my problem areas. I went in and just killed it. Had an awesome set, she was into me big time and this time I held the interest and was flirtatious but not cocky, and showed interest at the right times. It lasted over 20 minutes and it turned out she was staying out here for the weekend from Cali. When she was qualifying she told me she had a big time job with a tech company out there (which I will keep anonymous) that got bought out and she was basically loaded already in her late 20’s. I time bridged to for a date the next day and we agreed though I said I had to check my schedule to confirm.

We then all left and went to the bookstore and did some exercises. By this time everyone had a great bond going on and we were all having a blast. It was kind of depressing because it was getting late and we knew that our time sarging together like that was more than ½ over. Throughout this time Glenn was helping me with my text message game between the girl I met at the shoes store and I decided I wanted to meet up with her that night.

After sarging some more most of the guys were burnt out and went home, but me and two other guys wanted to go run night game at some of the bars and I had time to kill before I was suppose to head over to the hotel bar at 11:30. I was really interested in seeing how I would perform with no coaches around. We headed over to a bar and I ended up blowing out 3 times which I was totally bummed about. On my fourth approach I ended up approaching a pure 9 who was waiting for the bathroom and absolutely destroyed it. I ran it exactly the way they taught me. It was a lot easier though because me and this girl had a chemistry that was electric. I only ran 1 routine on her and everything else flowed naturally though I made sure to get her to qualify more and I had a lot of kino going. I never saw a girl flip her hair back so much, it seemed compulsive. She flipped her hair back every 10 seconds. This girl was the perfect girl to me, I swear I would have made her my girlfriend if we lived in the same town. With her constantly giving IOs I went in for a makeout and it was so cute because it was amazing for about 20 seconds and then she pulled away because she said her friends were coming. It made me like her more. She asked me if I was going to hang out there all night and I told her I had a party to go to later on and I would call her and she agreed and gave me her number. I didn’t know what to say at that point. I had the best connection with this girl as I have ever had with a girl within the first 20 minutes that I can remember but I don’t need a girlfriend in NY and I knew that my best bet was the blonde at the hotel who I was also into. I then headed over to the hotel and landed the samenight I mentioned before.

The end result of that was an amazing night with this girl who ended up paying for everything. I brought a guy from the bootcamp to take care of her friend who was a California party girl and he spent the night with her also and did a great job winging me. This whole event is a separate lay report onto itself and would probably double the size of this bootcamp review so I will have to make that separate but there is no doubt being in the right state and learning what was wrong with my game led me to this result. I never had a samenight lay in my entire life and I know only a few guys who had with girls who were actually sober.

The next morning I felt like absolute sh*t physically. Me and this girl screwed 3 times and only slept for about 4 hours. The 3rd day of the bootcamp was an extra day I decided to do and it was all class time. We worked on repoire building exercises, some other exercises, and final advice. To be honest I was totally out of it all day. I was so tired I could not even sit in the chair for a lot of it I was just laying on the floor. We ended at 5 and it was really depressing because I had more of an experience than I ever bargained for and I felt really connected to these guys by the end.

I sacrificed going away for spring break so I could do this bootcamp and the 1 night with this girl was probably more fun than I would have had anyway with the way my game was messed up. I also felt like I put myself on the right track and now know where I was going wrong though it will take a ton of work to become a truly great pick-up-artist who can constantly get samenights and pull 10’s though I believe I can one day. I could not recommend Glenn enough. I just had the feeling like I had the opportunity to take a class with a guy who is going to be a total star in the community. He not only is a master at what he does, but he is an awesome guy to spend time with and he genuinely cares about helping people. Usually guys this cool are just flat out assholes, but he is a really nice guy and you can just tell he is not faking that because he is the instructor. The thing I liked the most was that he tries to work with what you need rather than just simply trying to jam something on you to learn that might not be right for you. Now comes the hard part for me continuing to go out and pound the pavement. I am always looking to meet more wings and people in the community. If anyone is in the Philly area give me a shout out


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