I read the following on http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219033

"So I went to a Starbucks today and was ordering my drink and I saw a fancy Mercedes Benz pull up. Being curious like most of the people in the building, I looked to see who got out of the car and it was this girl with looks so good that I am just going to try and do my best to describe them. The girl was a blonde with a face somewhat similar to that of actress Sienna Miller, she wasn't too tall but she was in shape and had nice glowy skin. Something about her just yelled attractive, objectively she was an 8/10 by even internet standards. Add to that the fact that she was a blonde who drove a nice car, you can probably assume she wasn't an easy girl to get.

Now with that said, I know we push the principle of improving yourself and being the best that you can be but is it realistic to accept that in some cases there are things you cannot overcome? For example, as a middle eastern guy I have had no issues with most women regardless of their race but I feel that certain women are just unobtainable for me such as the rich girls who live in the Hamptons for example.

What are your thoughts on this?"

Also, dude went on to say this,

"From what I hear, there are only 2 kinds of guys that fuck and date these kinds of girls:

1. Rich white guys who are trust fund babies just like them.

2. Black guys who are more "hood" in their style and are targeted by these girls who might want to provoke their dads.

I fit neither stereotype and it seems like pre-selection has happened for these girls who can practically have any kind of guy they want. Now I haven't had much luck with these girls at all though, rich and financially well off white girls that look good have been the only ones I felt that were somewhat out of my league. TBH most have nothing to offer but their looks and some perks that come with being rich, I am sure their personalities are crap, but I wanna get that notch just to get that notch, a validation thing really." " HowardHughesDicaprio-Do you have to Accept That Some Women Are Just Realistically Out of Your League? http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219033 Post 5

and finally he concluded with,

"It kinda is a race thing for me. As a middle eastern guy I have been with above average looking white women of all hair colors from light blonde to black, throw in some Mediterranean women in there too if you count them as white. It is just that by observing society, I get the impression that there are some groups of girls here in the US who are only reserved for a certain kind of guy. When I looked at that blonde in the mercedes, already I thought about all the Channing Tatum or Chris Hemsworth lookalikes that she has had. Rich white girl with good looks means she is really going to give a fuck about her status, she is going to be very careful about what kind of guys she is seen with or dates because to these girls their status is everything.

It's like you have to meet certain standards which mainly include being white, in her circle (high status), and not ugly. My only problem is that I am one of those middle eastern guys that came out looking swarthy. I am a tan too dark to pass for Mediterranean and put me in the sun long enough and people think I am pakistani.

But hey what do I have to complain about, I have been with a few above average looking white girls and had women of color practically throw themselves at me. It does kind of get to you when you have come as far as I have to see that there are some women out there (outside of female celebs of course) who are just out of your reach." HowardHughesDicaprio-Do you have to Accept That Some Women Are Just Realistically Out of Your League? http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219033 Post 23


First of all, I'm trippin' off of that fact that he's holding up white chicks as the paragon of beauty, when in my opinion Persian, Arab, and Indian women are waay hotter than white girls. Also, there's the fact that he had homoerotic thoughts about said chick and sucking fucking Channing Tatum and Thor, but anyway. The underlying thought is why dude feels he's unworthy of women like the one that was pushing the Benz and why he's in his head about it. It also has to do with that fact that Rex honestly feels in his heart of hearts that no what a women's standing in life is and no how much she's making, there isn't a woman that's walking the planet that's on ole Rex's level, (mentality or intellectually,) I simply view them as oversized children.

Though I treat them with respect, I don't take them seriously and after recent incidents, I can't pedestalize them. Simply put, ya boy can never feel this towards a chick because he's above them, and like getting into Harvard or buying some Christian Louboutin shoes fucking with Omnipotens Maximus Rex is something that a woman should consider an honor and privilege. I was wondering that your thoughts on the matter is. The only leagues that exist is Major League Baseball, the National Football League, The National Hockey League, Major League Soccer, the League of Women Voters, and the Justice League of America. At the end of the day, good game trumps all.

I'm kind of confused by your reference. The guy posts a topic on race, but it appears his issue is with socioeconomic class. I also think it's silly to claim he's into dudes because he assumed the rich chick had a rich white handsome jacked up boyfriend. No need to call "come at me bro."

I meet women with alarming frequency that claim to only be interested in black men. Obviously saying this, I'm not black. I find it hilarious because while I have preferences when it comes to a woman's physical appearance, I can honestly claim that I have been attracted to women of every race.

So yeah, there are some crazy chicks out there with weird, specific tastes. But those are the exception, not the rule. Most women are decent people.

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Get better at Pickup and hit on her.

As you get better and hit on them. Looks, race, creed and economics don't matter as much. Your 'vibe' matters. How you make them feel. "Attaction isn't a choice".

Is it a 100%. But if you take 10 incredibly beautiful women getting out of Mercedes. You'll be getting a with a good percentage of available ones. From experience.

Anyone with common sense does.
At least if you approach things from probabilities instead of lotto logic.

Sure, some ugly Arab dude may be able to fuck one hot white girl. But can he consistently do this? No. They're out of his league.

Leagues are tied to success rate.

Do you want to grasp leagues? If I hit on 20 women, and none of them will go on a date with me - they're out of my league. If I approach 500 and get one of them to fuck me, I'm still basically wasting my time, and doing so way out of my league.

The odds are never zero. If you hit on one million women and all of them rejected you, one million and one may indeed turn out different. But based on the past... she's almost certainly going to reject you as well.

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Yes, there are leagues. I view game as a way to improve the league you're playing in.

The OP was a bit hard to follow, but I'll try.

I think this is a classic case of putting the pussy on a pedestal. You have no idea what she desires, but you are making the assumption. Are there leagues? Depends if a person has defined them for themselves. Maybe money is no object to her and could care less what you make. Maybe she has dated White guys and Black guys and is looking for something different.

Even then, it is not an absolute. I have known of many women claiming they won't date a guy less than 6 ft tall, then you see them on Facebook married to a guy, no taller than 5'7". Humans are illogical beings. One day we're all about Asian girls, tomorrow we're into Latinas. Women are no different. In fact, women tend to be far more illogical than men in my experience.

Despite all that, I do believe women tend to frequent places where they believe they'll find their type. I believe OP said he went to Starbucks, so IMO, that's fair game. If you were at a club where only high-rollers go, and you were lucky enough to get in (assuming you aren't a high-roller), I would say you're out of your league, statistically.

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