Howdy again, brothers. An interesting experience with a jealous boyfriend to relate to y'all. Pointers, as always, are appreciated.

So I was with my good friend (from this very same forum) at a midtown restaurant in Manhattan, having some food and a few beers at a table. Throughout our convo, I had met eye contact with this HB9 about three or four times, who was sitting at another table with a guy diagonally from her. I told my amigo, whereupon he dared me to approach her and ask, "Could you do me a favor? Could you stop staring at me like that?" I did it with a big smile, and she replied, "Are you for real?" I said yes, and then laughed out loud and went back to my table. The guy I pretty much paid no attention to, although consciously. I didn't do this to game per se (that requires engaging the guy as well), as much as seeing what her reaction would be, and also getting over the AFC in me that says not to approach couples.

So then I began to stare at her, and I could tell I had made her self-conscious, because she was now looking all over the place. (My friend said that if she met my stare, I should go over and ask her why she was staring at me again. If she said I was staring, then I was supposed to say "You started it," keeping a playful vibe all along.) Some song came on, and she said it was her song. My friend dared me to walk past and say that it was my song, which I did, always with a smile, of course. I did this as I walked to the bathroom.

I came back, and sat down again. When we were leaving, I went up to her and tried to number close, telling her that she MIGHT be able to stare at me in the future if she gave me her number. She then proceeded to tell me that I was in love with myself. I said I was. What's wrong with that? Then the boyfriend intervened, and said that she was his girlfriend. (Looking back, I should have asked him to give me his number as well, since one wants to engage everybody in a set.) So I said "your loss" to her, and left. I felt great, not because of her negative response (I mean, it was obvious that I was fucking around), but because I got over my approach anxiety and did it.

All in all, a positive experience, despite the fact that some mistakes were made. I learn from them, and move on. I'll have more armor on me when I approach couples in the future. That can happen, particularly in a place that isn't very lively.[/i]

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hmm...not necessarily the greattesstt way to approach her in my opinion, because 1)you didn't really follow through, or attempt to even isolate and 2)you might have come across as a little annoying, going up to her making a cocky funny comment, leaving and then coming back and making another comment that would just come across as cocky this time because you didn't follow any type of steps

From the point of view of ""learning"" i think that it was great. it is a good way to improve your self esteem (lol i wouldn't recommend doing exactly this, but it works nonetheless) and makes you feel like youu are better than her


If you want to really improve on your confidence with approaching women, when you are walking by an attractive women look her in the eye and hoolldd that....smile and wait for a return, if there is none...who the fuck cares. Also try doing things out of the ordinary, i know it will sound dumb, but walk into a mall with your finger up your nose or something lol...yeah at first it realllyyy may not be fun at all but after about half an hour it starts to get kind of funny, try even approaching a girl with your finger up your nose and haha if she asks just be like...""ohh...it's just a little ichy"" lol hope that helped bro

You guys are both kinda crazy...

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Cool i think he knew what happened, and it was just a bet. Also There's no point in him trying to isolate her at that stage.

And as for the finger up the nose thing, i think thats going a tad bit over the top and not nessesary. Someone would have to pay me 50 notes to do that. Your gonna make mistakes along the way, why not just make them naturally and learn from them that way, the more sets you open and the more success you have will build your confidence and help get rid of any AA.

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I see what you're saying, cool, but my approach was definitely warranted. One doesn't make eye contact with a girl three different times and not say anything!
It was hard, I gotta admit, (restaurant game, a couple) but I was surprised at how smoothly I did it. Maybe I did come across as annoying to her, but come on, it's not my fault she took such obvious fucking around as serious. Besides, I gotta work on my AMOGing and couples game. You'd be surprised at how many times that guy she's with is her co-worker.
KingMidas, where in St. Louis are you at? That's my hometown!

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I live in Maryland Heights, and work downtown. Too bad highway 40 is closed for like 2 years, especially because downtown is the place to drink... 3 o'clock bars I'm in heaven =)

How do you like New York? I've never been, but I'd love to go there sometime. Wallstreet is one of my favorite movies, you know the rest.

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The finger up the nose thing is just disgusting and most girls would be turned off by it.

Good job on getting over the AA and NOT starting a fight with the b/f.

that was creepy as fuck.

Granted you did something drastic, uncomfortable, and potentially
embarrassing to aid in ridding your AA, but honestly, I found the
whole interaction kinda creepy.

You went in saying you were not trying to game her, yet you tried
to number close. You were way more cocky than funny and I can tell
that turned her off. The eye contact at first was probably good, but
the staring after the over-the-top opener probably creeped her out
more than it made her giddily uncomfortable.

There's the saying "Perfect practice makes perfect". I would say keep
up the good work on overcoming your fears, but calibrate a little
better, tune your opener, and only sprinkle in your cockiness.

Here's more honesty. I would have probably handled the same
situation the same way you did, so hopefully we can both learn
something from this.

lmao you guys are nuts! the objective with your finger up your nose isn't to even try and pick-up a chick but more ""work on your self confidence"" and not let things bug you when talking to girls. I got the finger up the nose idea from hypnotica. and mozy bro, just because it's a bet, doesn't mean that he can't use game. arkitekt i agree

From Hypnotica or not, still not a good idea.

Not let things bother you when talking to girls? HA, try getting a girl TO talk to you with your finger up your nose! lol

lol u got a point la, maybe i didn't really think it through, if he can figure out any other ways that would work to, lol but la i'm tellin you...somtimes i cant help it, my nose gets really itchy, iagee with arkitekt

I see what you're saying, arkitekt. It could have been better calibrated. I could have engaged the boyfriend too, but I really wasn't thinking about bagging her per se, just to DO it.

But even if it DID creep her out (which it might have, considering that it COULD have been better calibrated), I just want to say that I did it, and didn't beat myself up over it afterward. As a matter of fact, I felt kind of good. It really felt like the old maxim "there are other fish in the sea" had come true, and I'm still living that.

I'm not saying what I did was great game. I don't even think that it was good. Let's say 4 on a scale of 10.

None of us wants to creep out girls, and that goes for guys as well. But even if we do, there's no need to beat ourselves up over it. If we do, better to acknowledge that, get over any AA that causes a creepy vibe to emanate around us, and move on.

As for Hypnotica, he might have had some anxiety issues. I'm not too familiar with his story, but I do know from reading "The Game" that he went around in a hockey mask, cape, and dildo in public to get over his anxiety. Talk about daring!

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