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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:28 pm 
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I had a private conversation with someone I thought I trusted over the course of several months, connected by a mutual party that we both know in person. The online communication posted between me and The Wild One is word for word; it is absolutely true. It has not been edited. It is my opinion.

My private statement and private opinions were made public. This is an important lesson for all in the permanence of online communication. I wish that this situation could have been handled privately, especially because these actions have taken the validity of the forum and the authority of the moderation staff into question. But this is not the issue.

Tripp and I decided to end our business relationship this past Sunday in Nashville. We both have different mindsets and viewpoints. We thought it would be best to part ways. Our mutual decision was (and IS) to be publicly gracious and professional in our opinion towards each other. He said he would not trash my name on the forum. However, this is not the issue.

My private opinion and the statements I have made to defend Cali and Tripp during Vibe's vicious onslaught are absolutely congruent with the private opinion that was made public. Read them. I stand by them. I think they are wonderful people. I think Tripp has made more of a positive impact on this forum through mentoring than anyone else, bar none. My private opinion, though 100% what I believe, will remain on that Instant Message. I will not get into a shit-slinging contest because THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE.

The real issue lies in the fact that two prior members of this community (Vibe, The Wild One) have trashed a prominent member of this community to gain momentum. They are jealous, and rightfully so. Tripp has an amazing reputation on the forum. I have clout as a moderator and as a theorist. I've been grandly duped, and I am only sorry that it was made public. I did not want to disrupt anyone's way of making a living.

I am not sorry that my opinion is now out there in the open - what was said, was said. Though I am sorry where it was said, and how it was said, and how it was brought to light. HOWEVER, I will not get into a public brawl; I care more about the SPAM and well-being of the members of this forum than I care about my ability to combat every hyperbolized word put out there against me. I am not the issue.

This situation is sensational, scandalous, and incredibly distracting. I stand by my ideas and beliefs. I am here to help everyone and their situations. This temporary distraction is nothing more than that. I am a professional wingwoman, I do my job well. Tripp is a professional mentor. And he does his job well. Our personal opinions of each other are going to be what they will be. Either way, opinions are irrelevant and only affect the stability of the community when dealt with like THIS. I can only hope that this matter be solved in a more courteous way.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:03 pm 
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I am locking this thread because I don't want an SPAM of taking sides happening. I'm about unity, not division. If you want to get something to me, please send me a PM.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:41 am 
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just as another unfortunate footnote: I have never posted anything over at wild one and vibe's forum. I've been absolutely and publicly forthcoming about what is my word and what is not.

The person posting does not have the same grammatical syntax or lexicon. It's obvious to those who know me that someone else is posting as "zip." It just proves to me that these men are trying to use defamation as momentum for their forum.

I regret having to make this statement. I've only talked to these men in private since their expulsion from this forum. That being said, I have every conversation saved, so I can tell you, for a fact, what is true and what is false.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:51 am 
I will verify this. I know who is posting over there, and it's not me, but Vibe actually changed the name of the real person to Zip, because he thinks it's Zip posting. He's just showing what an idiot he really is.

As a footnote, I have NOT influenced or provoked the person that IS posting over there. They are doing it on their own free will, however it is not Zip.


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Had to toss in my 2 cents guys, sorry for butting in, but this is affecting everyong now.

What's going on here people, is a difference of opinions, a difference of styles. Pickup is not something that has a right way, or a wrong way, it is something that you can go about however you like, as long as you're getting results and happy with yourself.

Tripp and Zip have differing styles and so their business arrangment didn't work out and everyone involved is obviously unhappy about that, so some things have been said, but as they often are, they have been taken out of context, with the intent of slandering both parties. Now the moderators at that other forum are trying to tell everyone that just because there has been a difference of opinions, that Tripp is not a PUA, but that's not the truth of it.

I hope everyone that reads this will take what I say next into consideration. There have been factions in the world of pickup for years and this is nothing new. Mystery and Style managed to live and work along side the guys from RSD without slinging mud their direction.

I can't say for sure, because I've never actually seen Meth, Vibe, or Wild in person, but they may be great PUAs, so I'm not gonna claim to know, just like they shouldn't be claiming to know about Tripp, Zip, or myself without having first seen us in person. Those guys have their own style and it works for them and if it works for you, great, but we all have our own styles and they work great for us!

If you are interested in learning how me or Tripp run game, we'll be in Miami during spring break, March 14th-17th and you can get further details by PMing either Tripp, or myself. We won't be running game the way Wild, Meth, or Vibe run game, but neither do Mystery and Style run game like Ross Jefferies, or Tyler Durden.

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