Anyone got a fool proof attention whore game or girls playing hard-to-get? I always find myself opening them after several days---Like I have to chase...and then I stop after a couple hours and realize I'm chasing and say fuck this...and then the pattern repeats. It seem even worse among 9's and 10's. On occasion they open back- but most of the time I open. If they do open I have noticed they'll go to serious efforts to get your attention back if you ignore them enough...ya know like "busy, sorry" that shit drives them wild. And then once they have your attention they're gone again.

Very odd- maybe I am just not waiting it out long enough? Or caving too early? It's like gaming a schizophrenic or someone with severe ADD, I never have the opportunity to run full game- they start giving IOD and then I realize and just say, "Yeah- I got shit to do- see ya"

Then- I go back to freezing them out (sometimes for a week or more) and the process repeats.

be absolutely amazing, give them a taste of some good attention, then slow start taking it away, forcing them to invest more and more, until finally they are investing more then you and you are just not reacting, when you get the sense that they are really flaky you have to play their game, and start blowing them off, get them to re-qualify that they won't flake and make the meetups spontanious and on the same day, also from your post, try removing yourself premature, when you are getting ioi, it seems counter intuative since leaving when your doing well doesn't seem right when you can push it further, but keeping things breif as possible until your in a desired situation is a good choice

Great thread. Recently got these encounters too. Attention whores who chat up the room and then leave. Extremely irritating. But the tactic described above is actually a nice one. Will try it when this sort of shit occurs again.

When it comes to attention whores, its really best to let them be. They are not worth the time or effort really in the long run. With hard to get ones, just play more with push/pull and if done right you be able to get them.

I've found for me, its all about being super ballsy and super cocky, having decent social proof and a fun high energy vibe.
(I should probably add I'm referring to night / club game, with the intention of a same night lay)

I don't really neg them in the MM kind of way, but more in the sense that any compliment I decide to give will have NOTHING to do with how they look, I use ALOT of kino, alot of eye contact and never ever get caught staring at their boobs, haha.

I lead them around the club, like literally grab her hand and lead her to the bar / Dfloor, and throw it away again when I get there.

I find if I'm hitting on 9s and 10s, I'll be out with 3 or 4 girls as social proof, and try and be in a high traffic area. If we are laughing and having fun either chillin on couches or in the middle of the dance floor, I'm conveying the vibe I need to have the HBs thinking... "those guys are having an awesome night, I want in!!"
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"there's 1 guy with 4 girls, I wonder if he's gay"
I get asked if I'm gay all the time by random girls in clubs, because its their way of justifying I'm out with pretty girls, I'm talking to them in a super ballsy confident way and I'm not staring at their boobs. Most other guys will be sitting in the corner, yelling "YOUR HOT" at HBs, and never mustering up the courage to approach without skulling a beer first, and when they get there, the confidence goes out the window, haha

Dont be one of those guys

-guilt

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When you know what it takes to get these hard-to-get girls, social proof, a cocky-funny vibe, confidence etc, you may either realize that you have to put tremendous effort to become this guy (if it doesn't fit your personality), or that it is a very thin line to walk and that it is extremely easy to fall on either side (too much or too littlte of something will spoil it). Then you will ask yourself, is it worth all the trouble?

Many guys (usually non-PUAs) have realized that the answer is "no", and that they will only put some effort and approach girls who seem to be worth it. They are often mistaken for being AFCs and are called "chodes" on RSD.

No. No such thing as a fool proof method for anything.
Yes, these kind of girls are tough. You have the right idea, I think you need to wait longer. Don't give in and show them interest once you get the first IOI from them, keep playing hard to get longer.

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Part of game is identifying attention whores and leaving them alone. It's like poker. When the hand is goin nowhere, you fold rather than commit any more chips to that pot. Same thing here. It's about the economics of a situation, and getting maximum return for your efforts and resources. The moment you spend more time money or effort on one girl who is "hard to get" than one who would have been interested right away, you have lost efficiency.

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DJ_Z, you have came such a long way man sense I first met you on here back in 2011. Congrats man.

I really have nothing else to add except DJ_Z is 100% right.

For every "playing-to-get-attention-whore-HB10" out there, there are multiple attractive girls who don't play silly head games.

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its not worth the time or trouble those are the types you may want to try to make friends with. They are also usually the ones when they get in to their 20's and up they think they are entitled to a rich guy. The thing most of them don't realize until they are about 40 is that there's millions of cute girls wanting rich guys and a much much smaller number of rich available compatible men to go around.

9's and 10's usually have so many guys hitting on them on a regular basis. they find something special and attractive about a guy can actually ignore her and not take her bait. these girls also have more confidence and will shit-test you more often because they are not at all desperate.

building a relationship with these girls can take more time than with other girls, but in the end it might be worth it.

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Big difference between an attention whore and a "10". An attention whore can just be some girl wearing lots of makeup, making her hair platinum blonde, having a spray tan, and showing a lot of skin. Most of those women are bad news and not even worth the chase, I actively ignore them and sometimes it does workout and they are more interested in me because of it.

Now as for the 9s and 10s, everyone might talk about "game" and yes that matters but you won't believe what kind of guys get the 9s and 10s. Growing up I used to believe that the guys who would get these 9s and 10s were usually guys like looks of The Rock or David Beckham and with the personality of Don Draper but then I found it isn't true at all. The truth is a lot of the guys who end up with these 9s and 10s have a lifestyle.

These are the guys who played sports growing up, rushed the finest fraternities at their college, and were surrounded by an active social circle throughout their teens and early 20s. A lot of these are guys who worked at fancy restaurants during the summer and made connections. So those of you that said social proof, you pretty much got it right.

In college you just won't believe the amount of guys you see with the 10s who are far from good looking themselves.

Fact is, attractive young women chase status like PUAs chase women. It is all about the higher value. The girl who is a 9 or 10 worries the most about her value in her social circle. If she dates a guy who is perceived as lower value then she risks putting her status in jeopardy.

This is where it gets tough.

You can learn the basics of game within a matter of months (I say about 6 months) and perfect them to where you are approaching women with confidence. You can get a nice body by hitting the gym constantly and hitting your macros within a matter of 6 months as well.

Yet the part about being liked by her social circle requires a lot of time. If you think these 9s and 10s are running off with some PUA cold approaching them you are mistaken. A lot of these girls are hooking up with the top guys in their social circle.

The bartender at the bar who works with all of these amazing women is the one who is nailing all of those girls because they see him as a part of their tribe.

A girl that is a 6 or 7 might be more open to getting nailed by random guys during the night but the 9s and 10s are always looking for guys who have been validated by their circle. All of that takes time investment and a lot of dedication, you have to find the one niche in society.

For example, my friend joined acting school which was loaded with attractive women and he has dated 3 of them. Another friend of mines met his girlfriend, a 9/10 brunette, in dance class.

You can't just go up to these girls randomly in public and hope to have much success, in fact, from my experience, you will get laughed off.

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