Ok well I openned this HB with a Opinion openner "Who Lies more" We talked about that for awhile and then I tried the trusted Dinosaur openner she asked why I wanted to know her favorite dinosaur. I replied back with a simple, Everyone loves dinosaurs. She then replied back with that she didn't cause she wasn't a geek. I stated that just cause you like dinosaurs doesn't make you a geek.... Now here is the kicker, she then asked me. Well arn't you gonna ask what my name is, what i do where I am from. I just looked at her baffled and said "No... " pause "I am not interested in that." She looked at me stunned like I had done something wrong. I don't know if it's cause I am still rusty, but why are girls wanted to be asked those questions? The only thing I could think of is she was trying to DHV to me to prove herself.... I paused more waiting for her to respond and she finally said. "Well are you gonna ask me those questions?" I just shook my head and took her that she was too needed for me and walked away.

Hmm...

Her desperate need to tell you about herself in the typical way seems like an IOI to me. Of course, I'm a fan of Zan's way of thinking where everything is an IOI. A better reply could have been something like, "Everyone asks those questions, and I find them to be typical and boring. They don't reveal anything about WHO the other person is." This could be used as a great lead-in to the cube. On a side note, I'm afraid I have to agree with her that the dinosaur thing may be a bit geeky. Favorite movie, favorite author, favorite actor, favorite tv show, favorite book, stuff like that. They're more mainstream, and her answer will actually reveal something about her personality.

Off the top of my head ->

Her: I'm not a geek (or whatever she said)
PUA: Why are you being so tough to talk to? I bet you're the type of girl who could make a 2 minute conversation seem like an hour! (Turn and look at friend) How do you roll with this girl?? *Grin*

Delivery is the key. And if these scenarios come up in the future again, my advice is to call her on the stuff that she is doing that is messing up your game. If she gives you an answer that does not satisfy you, tell her she's uncreative. If she says something ungenuine, ask her why she's lying. Say stuff that will make her prove herself to you.

If she asks you if you're going to ask for her name, number etc., flip the situation back to HER and ask her if she is hitting on you. "I just met you and you're hitting on me?! *grin*"

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IOI, or bitch shield?

If she's not asked those questions often, it seems a bit strange to start a conversation about dinosaurs. She wants you to like her, she wants to be interesting for you, and you didn't give her the opportunity to do so on her own terms. By asking girls the questions we do, we frame the conversation in a very peculiar way. We want the girls to be interesting for us, but only in the ways we prescribe because we know how to deal with those. She wanted to be interesting for herself, not for dinosaurs.

Or she was raising her bitch shield. She has prearranged answers for questions like "Where are you from?" or "What do you do?" She doesn't need to think about those answers; she just gives them, takes the drink the AFC offers, and ignores him for the rest of the night. She can't invest in being interesting for you because she doesn't know she's supposed to. She has no trained way to respond to the questions you've asked her, and that confuses her.

My response would have been something akin to "Well why don't you tell me about what you DO find interesting?"

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I woulda tried this...

HB - "Well arn't you gonna ask what my name is, what i do where I am from."
You - "Well aren't you gonna ask me?"
You - or a neg such as "You probally don't know your dinosaurs..."
You - or simply give the bitch what she wants because some of them are too dumb to realize what good game is and just really want to be probed with boring questions because in all actuallity, they are boring so maybe go with "and your name is...?" and just get her talking like that then try again with something more intelligent once her brain can process more than three things at once.

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