Importance of transitioning



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:05 pm 
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For those of you that don't know, after opening stage is just a time frame, from opening till 3 to 5 minutes in. Various different methods have their own name for this, MM calls it attraction, Sinn calls it transitioning some other instructors call it pre-setting. But it's purpose is only one thing to message the girl that you're a cool person to hang around with. The importance of this stage could be high or low. It's high because you have to do it, if you don't show a girl that you're cool or I should say more properly, at least somewhat socialy intelligent, you can't move forward. Now this is also low importance. Let's say you're meeting a new girl and you fuck up in this stage, you'll probably get blown away (showing disinterest) but since it's just 3 minutes in it doesn't matter, you haven't wasted that much of a time so it's no big deal, you just go to the next set and you're in this stage in no time.
Now here's the trick, SHOWING A GIRL THAT YOU'RE COOL IS NOT SET IN STONE THING. If we corelate that to some methods that are out there, they all teach their own thing to show that, BTW there is a difference between telling a girl that you're cool or showing that:

- MM: DHV, negs
- David DeAngelo: C/F
- Sasha: Be funny
- Skills360: Dancing
- 60YOC: Going sexual
- RSD: Fun and intent
- …

If you compare them some may look totally opposite from the other, but guess what all of the above have incommon… they all work. You can show a girl that you're cool by going sexual as well as making her laugh as well as showing her you are interesting as well as showing DHV, all this things are driven by different emotions and hormones, but they all do same thing in transitioning they make the girl wanna stay with you.
So if you're looking for a new method that has that ''This piece of game is going to be the shit.'' Just remember that ''This piece of game'' is not the only one that is the top shit…
For example if you have a horny girl on the dancefloor and you come in all C/F you might loose the chance of SNL, same goes if you have really pumped up smiely girl and you come in all sexual you might look a little creepy, so calibration goes hand in hand with this.
Anyway there are a lot of different things you can do to make this phase successful, so you don't have to burn the same thing over and over again, just because worked three times out of four. Be a bit more openminded and make girls open behinded ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:14 pm 
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Solid post. I also think the 3-4 minutes prior to this step are best spent (aside from qualifying) cold reading your target. That way as he mentioned you can better calibrate. I think the best "systems" are really just PUA's that have taken the time to properly match their approach of the qualify/read to this concept.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:24 pm 
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Hmmm. I'm not sure if this sufficiently describes the essence of transitioning. I thought it was just moving from one phase of your routine to the next. Going from comfort, to rapport, to breaking rapport, to attraction, to seduction, etc. Is it not?

And the various gaming styles those pua's use often times interlap. Tyler is funny but he's also sexual too. Mystery is cocky just like David D. And let's face it, dancing skills only work well in nightgaming scenarios. I guess what I'm getting at is that pua's develop a certain style because that works well for them. All of them use techniques that could work on most women if applied correctly. I can't really dance, so basing my game around dancing is not really feasible for me. So I would have to structure my pickup persona around some other technique. I'm naturally a funny and sarcastic guy, so cocky funny is probably right up my alley. Some guys are kind of quiet and lack a sense of humor, so maybe going sexual is their bread and butter. It's relative to the person and what they can effectively pull off.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:23 pm 
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pickup is actually very similar to martial arts. we all have our own strength and weaknesses. some people are masters at karate, some are good at Chinese boxing.

just like bruce lee said: be water my friend

we have to be flexible. and only experience and training can help with that


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It's less about what you do and it's more about how you do it.

Whether you are being sexual, being funny, being fun, or cocky the underlying theme in EVERY single pua guru's advice is be confident. Avoid being needy.

The goal is for you to find a tactical or guide that fits YOUR personality and character, mystery, 60 yoc, gambler, etc.

You can do about anything with self-confidence and high self-esteem and it will eventually work on a girl.... Most importantly if you are being you and aiming to find girls that want YOU not a smoke screen you post of yourself that works until she finds out you're needy.

The best combination for picking up sexy women?

Self Confidence + high Self Esteem + Direct + Responsive male

Self Confidence & high Self Esteem- Self Explanatory

Direct- Women love when men desire them, but hate a needy guy who needs only them (of course depends on the situation and the woman). Coming in at a "high value" (self esteem and self confidence) and showing your desire does a lot more than bull shit games for pushing the process along and becoming attractive. Direct is very attractive, it's a turn for her to be desired especially when you come from a "high value" mindset.

Responsive male - Knowing how to react to the situation, her mood, and what she needs right now. This means coming in at the right energy. This involves not coming in at a higher energy than she can handle or more direct than she can handle. Learn to read body language. Sometimes you need to illustrate some attractive behaviors and then respond to her attraction accordingly by escalating things sexually.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:32 am 
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When the girl is from the first sight attracted then the attraction zone lasts only several minutes and then it goes over to comfort zone. The time how fast it happens depends how much the girl really likes the guy. Anyway the girl can be almost in comfort zone from the beginning on.

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