Long story short, I like this girl and she KNOWS how crazy I am about her but she is in a serious relationship. We use to text a lot and have long convos but she never initiated even when she said "ill msg first next time or at least try to beat u to it" (gave her a month and she never gave in, wtf?) anyway we haven't texted for a while and never hung out yet either. I invited her to join me and some friends out twice and she bailed, well she had 2 good excuses but always said she will come out to hang next time. I also asked her to hang out one time, just the two of us and she said it might not be a good idea because it might be "weird between us" and how it might be "hard" for both of us, although she said she wouldn't mind it but she is considering how things are on my side (whatever that means lol)... So she would rather hang as a group at least at first...

So she is down to be friends, but I don't want to end up as "just friends" with her. So how should I approach this!?!?

I mean normally I would say she isn't interested but when I do text her our convos go on till one of us goes to bed, I mean we even went as late as 3-4AM and we had things to do in the morning. And this is like non-stop texting too so it is kinda weird. And ya there is a little flirting but more on my side...

I know too much texting is a bad thing so I been trying to avoid it but not sure how to play it out... Any tips!?

Haven't tried to BF D techniques yet but it would definitely make this situation more fun... And I haven't been trying to put much effort on this girl yet because I'm stuck on what to do... I really didn't push the hang outs too hard or even the text initiating so I don't come off as too needy...

*And yes I know the basics, to lay on some kino game and keep the flirting going when we finally do hang out. Not a complete rookie here

That plan was actually not that bad Doc, despite the felatio and gay butt sex part. It's hard to get out of the friendzone and get a girl to dump her bf, so pretending to be gay, or at least bi, might work. Hey, it works as an opener, right? And chicks love them some gay dudes.

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